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re: Tom Homan: “As a Catholic, I think they need to spend time fixing the Catholic Church."
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:46 pm to Tbone2
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:46 pm to Tbone2
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The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
Or maybe it’s the Orthodox Church that is the church founded by Jesus Christ.
Regardless, the important part isn’t which church was founded by Jesus, but which one is following him.
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Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:46 pm to 3down10
Say something bad about the Baptist church.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:46 pm to 3down10
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I don't belong to any religion, I know what Jesus knew because I know the father.
Ahh ok gotcha. At least now I know what I'm dealing with here.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:54 pm to hawgfaninc
He's right you know. Start by kicking out those muslims and their prayer rugs in the Vatican library.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:57 pm to JellyRoll
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they are a for profit conglomerate that is pretty far removed from Jesus. There are some good priests and nuns who are salt of the Earth people, but beyond that it's not the church of Jesus.
You are correct. They are not the religion of Jesus, they worship the idol of Jesus and then do things that are completely against what he taught.
If they would understand Jesus is the way, the truth and the light/life and follow that rather than the idol, then they would be better served.
Because at the end of the day, if you are a thief, you can not live in a society without theft. If you are someone who murders, you can not live in a society without murder. In order to live in a heavenly society, you must keep the commandments.
And Jesus is the one who shows that path.
The most common way people sin is via government.
I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
So what does this statement really mean?
Does he mean only by worshiping his name and sacrifice can you come to the father. Or does he mean only by following the way, the truth and the life can you come to the father? Because one of them is to worship his death, the other is to follow his life example.
Maybe the sacrifice is that he did those things and showed people in the face of authority knowing he would be killed for doing so. But showed that doing those things was way more important than a death.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:57 pm to BarnHater
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The Catholic Church is the one true church.
If God wanted to "found" a church on earth it would be the Hebrew Church with the Levite Priests, that's what God ordained.
The Catholic church is just a man made copy of that.
Look at the robes, the rituals, the penances.
None of that was by Christ.
The one true church is a spiritual church that exists in the hearts and minds of those that truly believe.
It can never be controlled or ruled over by men.
It's one true leader is Jesus.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:01 pm to 3down10
There are zero rich priests in America.
How many rich Protestant pastors are there?
How many rich Protestant pastors are there?
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:02 pm to Tbone2
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The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
False.
The church Jesus founds is one of understanding within a person. Once you have understanding, no man can take it from you. It's built upon a rock, to mean it's sturdy etc.
You understand math right? You understand that 1+1=2. Now you can sit around and memorize that statement and be right. You can put it around your neck, and you're right, 1+1=2. But a man who understands math also knows 1+2=3, 3+5=8 and so on. And from that understanding, you can build out much more.
And since you know math, there is nothing you can say that will allow me to convince you that 1+1=3. You know better not because you memorized a true statement, but because you have understanding.
But the man who has no understanding and only memorizes 1+1=2 as the truth, will also reject 1+2=3. They will reject 2+2=4, because they lack the understanding required to see it's another expression of the same understanding.
That is the church Jesus built, and that is the real church with God.
For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
This post was edited on 11/14/25 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:05 pm to LSUbest
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The one true church is a spiritual church that exists in the hearts and minds of those that truly believe.
It can never be controlled or ruled over by men.
It's one true leader is Jesus
Holy crap I can't believe I read through three pages before someone finally got it. The denomination of your church is a figure of division by Satan himself. Anything, and I mean anything, that brings division is sewn by the divider and is not of God. The true church of Christ is the body of believers, not the denominational worship I've seen in this thread.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:05 pm to GRTiger
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There are zero rich priests in America.
How many rich Protestant pastors are there?
I don't know, and I'm not sure why you think they are the ones who set the standard rather than God and the one you claim to follow.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:05 pm to BarnHater
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The Catholic Church is the one true church. All others are doomed to an eternity in hell.
Better get right with the Lord before it’s too late.
This is a serious question, not sarcasm. Where in the Bible does it state that one needs to go through the Catholic Church and all of its rules in order to ascend to Heaven? My understanding is that the Bible states, per Jesus's words, that the way to Heaven is through Him. That once you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior then you are good to go.
This post was edited on 11/14/25 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:06 pm to 3down10
You set the standard that begged the question.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:08 pm to GRTiger
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Say something bad about the Baptist church.
For what purpose? Is there a specific belief you want me to address, because much of what I've said here applies to all of Christianity.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:12 pm to 3down10
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The Catholic Church is not the religion of following Jesus.
Actually when one focuses on infallible church doctrine it really is. But this sort of thing is far beyond the intellectual capacity of evangelicals, southern baptists, Pentecostals, and other WASP hick churches, so we’ll give all you Anglo types a pass.
This post was edited on 11/14/25 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:14 pm to Midget Death Squad
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That once you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior then you are good to go.
alright, so let's say you do this. You get baptized.
Then you commit manslaughter, or sleep with another women/divorce your wife. Or you steal something.
Are you just good to go because you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?
Just close your eyes and say forgive me Jesus and it's all good? (it could be if you showed perfect contrition for your sins...this is also a Catholic belief, but for us the safest way is through the Sacraments of Reconciliation/Penance.)
This post was edited on 11/14/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:15 pm to GRTiger
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You set the standard that begged the question.
I didn't set the standard, God did. You have to keep the commandments. You have to actually follow and do what Jesus said.
Because again, if you are a thief, then you can't live in a world without theft. Your very presence in that society/world would instantly destroy it.
That's why you are here, removed from the "Garden". Because you would destroy it.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:16 pm to gaetti15
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alright, so let's say you do this. You get baptized.
Then you commit manslaughter, or sleep with another women/divorce your wife. Or you steal something.
Are you just good to go because you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?
Just close your eyes and say forgive me Jesus and it's all good (it could be if you showed perfect contrition for your sins...this is also a Catholic belief, but for us the safest way is through the Sacraments of Reconciliation/Penance._
What does the Bible say about this? And what is the answer to my original question? Posing a question to a question is a form of avoidance.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:18 pm to Midget Death Squad
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What does the Bible say about this? And what is the answer to my original question? Posing a question to a question is a form of avoidance.
I'd invite you to look at the Catholic answers website, or the Catechism of the Catholic Church, but I know many never take that recommendation.
I hate getting into Bible fights with Protestants. It's just a verbal sparing match of mix and match Bible verses...and whichever makes the most sense to you is what is believed...even though others may believe things different based on their interpretation.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:19 pm to Tbone2
quote:But don’t think Jesus said “bring the little children to me “ in the way the pedophile priests meant it nor those that covered it up for thousands of years.
The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:20 pm to BarnHater
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Congratulations on your spiritual journey. Unfortunately, religions like Baptist are designed to glorify Satan and distract you from the one true church. Glad you were savvy enough and strong enough in your belief to not be tricked in to an eternity of damnation.
As somebody that has sat in Catholic, Non Dom, Baptist, COC, and Methodist pews you are way off. None of these people glorify Satan. Most are after Jesus's heart. If you are only trying to win the "whos' church is the best" contest then you are doing it wrong. Seek a relationship with Jesus. Who cares what building you do it in.
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