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re: True or false. GOP impeachment of Clinton
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:34 pm to ApexTiger
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:34 pm to ApexTiger
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The sin is against himself!!!! And wife...
Nothing to do with country
Perjury is a crime between he and his wife?
The fact that Clinton was allowed to get away with criminal activity in such a fashion I would argue is why the Democrat party is so radical today.
Clinton's getting away with it was really a turning point for the country and not a good one.
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:34 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Context is important to understand why someone did what they did, but the issue remains that he was impeached for perjury, which is a crime, not for adultery, which isn't.
He lied under oath for his sexual sins.
If you're leader of the free world...are you not wanting to conceal that sin?
Context people....
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:35 pm to Seldom Seen
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Perjury is a crime between he and his wife?
Come on you know that not what I said or meant.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:36 pm to FooManChoo
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Context is important to understand why someone did what they did, but the issue remains that he was impeached for perjury, which is a crime, not for adultery, which isn't.
But he was in process of being impeached before he committed perjury...
So why was he being impeached? A blow job
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:37 pm to ApexTiger
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He lied under oath for his sexual sins. If you're leader of the free world...are you not wanting to conceal that sin?
Wrong again.
He perjured and suborned perjury in a sexual assault trial! Assault is more than a sin!
Should never have been the leader of the free world! Thank God, Hilldebeast wasn’t as commander of the “Bimbo Squad”!
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:40 pm to ApexTiger
The impeachment of Clinton had nothing to do with having sex as much as it did him lying under oath to a federal grand jury while under investigation for shady land deals in Arkansas and sexually assaulting Paula Jones, while also pressuring a young female government employee he was sleeping with literally in the Oval Office to lie under oath to a federal grand jury as well. What Clinton did would have gotten you or I locked up for a good while. Just because he was President, he thought he could get away with it. Trump, on the other hand, has not been charged with an actual federal crime. The 2019 articles are spurious. The 1998 articles were at least based in a practical understanding of the constitutional foundations for impeachment.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:41 pm to ApexTiger
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The sin is against himself!!!! And wife
Actually. He lied under oath in a sexual harassment case.
Just sayin
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:44 pm to ApexTiger
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So why was he being impeached? A blow job
Even if we accepted your premise isn't that bad enough?
It's not just a blowjob. It's a blowjob on the jobsite during working hours. They are both government employees who we are being paid with our tax dollars. Two government employees one is a subordinate having sex at work and we are paying for it.
If that was a principle doing that with his secretary at your kids school would you be ok with it?
The only reason he wasn't removed from office is because doing so would have been highly embarrassing to the Democrat party and they just couldn't have that.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:44 pm to ApexTiger
You must not be old enough to remember how democrats acted I dunno, at least 30 years before that
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:45 pm to ApexTiger
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So why was he being impeached? A blow job
This is just stupid
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:32 pm to ShortyRob
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Actually. He lied under oath in a sexual harassment case.
Thought it was consensual?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:36 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Jesus Christ man. I get it. It was a long time ago.
Thought it was consensual?
But, he was accused of sexual harassment by Paula Jones and lied UNDER OATH when her attorneys questioned him about Monica Lewinsky.
A legit question given that they were trying to show pattern.
You aren't allowed to lie under oath when accused of sexual harassment just because you don't like the question.
THAT is what started the whole "perjury" thing.
I realize CNN will never EVER tell the story like this. It's all "he lied about a BJ" shite. Alas, that's what it is. shite.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:47 pm to Seldom Seen
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Even if we accepted your premise isn't that bad enough?
Does impeachment reach the high standard that the republicans are talking about? Dersc...
In your eyes it does meet...?
The democrats made several arguments that what trump has done is far worse than Clinton because it involves national
security vs an individual sin.
We have to stop and ponder is the act of wrongdoing worthy of removing a president? that's the question for all of us.
Removal should be last result...should bipartisan vote because it's that bad to all
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:50 pm to ApexTiger
There was a list of shite the Clintons were involved with before Lewinski. GOP had been frustrated for a few years. Clinton sexual assaults, the Whitewater mess, Hillary’s incredible investment of $1K that turned into $100K, etc... all kinds of shite. Lewinski is where he got caught lying.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:53 pm to ShortyRob
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But, he was accused of sexual harassment by Paula Jones and lied UNDER OATH when her attorneys questioned him about Monica Lewinsky.
I thought that case was separate...
I dont remember all of it...I just remember Monica and he lied about it.
My point is if he was sleeping with someone other than Hillary...that's a sin not a high crime.
Did the Republicans push the sin issue or not?
I'm just sick of the Democrats and endless efforts to remove Trump these days...
My question is, is the GOP partly to blame for our current situation involving endless investigations?
Kavanaugh was voted in right down party lines.
The partisan voting must stop!
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:53 pm to ApexTiger
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because it involves national security vs an individual sin.
That premise is simply false. What Bill Clinton did was commit a federal crime. Donald Trump, without committing a crime, as even the House managers acknowledge the absence of a crime in their articles, temporarily suspended aid that eventually flowed to a small country in Eastern Europe. Can you tell me specifically how that undermines our national security? Especially when there have been several pauses on foreign aid in years past.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:53 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Nope.
impeachment of Clinton over his sexual sins in the oval office
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:53 pm to Tridentds
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Clinton sexual assaults, the Whitewater mess, Hillary’s incredible investment of $1K that turned into $100K, etc... all kinds of shite.
If they would have gotten him on one of those I would have been all for his impeachment.
When the big thing was perjury and all that the news covered was the blue dress I was against it as I knew it wouldn't fly and just looked bad.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:59 pm to DyeHardDylan
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Can you tell me specifically how that undermines our national security?
I can not...
I side with team Trump
I'm just suggesting...we need to remove ourselves from partisanship arguments "defending our party" and think "lawfully"
Is this "abuse of power" worthy of removing our President or future presidents?
Heck no
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:12 pm to ApexTiger
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over his sexual sins in the oval office are why we have endless investigations and division?
I guess leftist are incapable of getting this right. It wasn’t over his sexual sins. It was over perjury, and obstruction of justice in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Remember her? Yeah, she was the chick that James Carville talked about, saying she is what you get when you drag $20 through a trailer park. That Paula Jones. Bubba gave blatantly false testimony under oath in a deposition for her case. Also known as perjury, and obstruction of justice. Crimes that would land you or I in jail.
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