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re: Trump defends skilled immigration, breaking with MAGA base
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
Its obvious. You shove it in our faces daily
Roger you have mental issues
Roger you have mental issues
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:17 am to ragincajun03
quote:that is true.
I don’t know. If you read this board, there seems to be a sentiment from quite a few in the MAGA arena who want HB1s done away with, at least temporarily.
Still a false equivalence to illegal immigration; especially unvetted illegals from +140 countries many of them getting medicaid through state launding schemes.
There's an argument for ending the H1-B program, or suspending it. But that goes into both the burden on the people (jobs) and benefit to the USA (also jobs) vetting/dynamic.
Letting skilled workers in IF there is a deficit AND need for that skill is a whole other matter.
What the press (thus the left) seeks to do is conflate the two.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:17 am to SDVTiger
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Got it. You are just making shite up
I'm specifically not
I'm explaining the bait and switch. When you can show me that we've stopped importing H1Bs from India and replaced them with actually applicable groups, you can say I'm wrong.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:18 am to SDVTiger
quote:
You shove it in our faces daily
No, Trump does. Youre like an abused spouse, and love him no matter how abusive he is to his own cult.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:18 am to I20goon
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part of legal migration is providing a benefit to the USA and being able to support ones self without government support. It has been policy for a very very very long time.
A complete immigration is one thing. We’re talking about work visas specifically designed to fill roles Americans can’t fill. However, most of these can be filled by Americans, the companies just find ways not to.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
The boomer chuds of the board who don't mind destroying national identity with the bullshite "melting pot" narrative we've been fed for decades can't wrap their feeble minds around why Americans are fed up with unfettered immigration, both illegal and not. This is one example among many, as to why young people are sick and tired of it.
Who knows how many are fresh immigrants brought in for pennies on the dollar. Don't think for a second that the tech companies (and others) aren't loving the increased margins. MTG, Mrs. America First herself, bent the knee and said the quiet part out loud.
The, "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" was a load of crap, and it's come to a head circa 2025. Of course a boomer billionaire wants cargo planes full of foreigners being flown in by the hour: millions of these people are not skilled in any shape, form or fashion. They run donut shops, they own every gas station selling shady chemicals and vapes: they aren't irreplaceable assets to society. They group up, practice nepotism with extreme prejudice, and the ones who are in tech (like in the chart above), are not savants that American graduates can't compete with. The 3rd world construction workers don't even comprehend the concept of "code," and undercut American craftsmen with bargain basement prices and shoddy 3rd world workmanship. There's no young men learning to be framers because DR Horton is paying $9/hour to shed dwellers who gladly send it back to their shithole country. Put them in the fields to pick sweet potatoes and pull iceberg lettuce, fine, but keep their asses out of our construction sites and manufacturing.
Frick Trump. That out of touch billionaire boomer. And frick him for insinuating that anyone who doesn't fawn over his love of shipping in labor isn't smart. Of all the people to talk about being, "smart," Trump needs to sit his fatass out on this one.
Trump's approval rating is plummeting with the demographic that elected him: gen z, millennial and gen x white males, and this is why. His approval rating will be single digits by the time he leaves office, and contrary to what he said, the majority who despise his takes on this are smart, informed white males. We see through the bullshite: hundreds of thousands of these people aren't going back. He's lying. He wants the headlines, not the American jobs. He's a traitor, and when they start with the kangaroo courts after he leaves office and democrats are back in control, he won't have anyone left to give a shite.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Who knows how many are fresh immigrants brought in for pennies on the dollar. Don't think for a second that the tech companies (and others) aren't loving the increased margins. MTG, Mrs. America First herself, bent the knee and said the quiet part out loud.
The, "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" was a load of crap, and it's come to a head circa 2025. Of course a boomer billionaire wants cargo planes full of foreigners being flown in by the hour: millions of these people are not skilled in any shape, form or fashion. They run donut shops, they own every gas station selling shady chemicals and vapes: they aren't irreplaceable assets to society. They group up, practice nepotism with extreme prejudice, and the ones who are in tech (like in the chart above), are not savants that American graduates can't compete with. The 3rd world construction workers don't even comprehend the concept of "code," and undercut American craftsmen with bargain basement prices and shoddy 3rd world workmanship. There's no young men learning to be framers because DR Horton is paying $9/hour to shed dwellers who gladly send it back to their shithole country. Put them in the fields to pick sweet potatoes and pull iceberg lettuce, fine, but keep their asses out of our construction sites and manufacturing.
Frick Trump. That out of touch billionaire boomer. And frick him for insinuating that anyone who doesn't fawn over his love of shipping in labor isn't smart. Of all the people to talk about being, "smart," Trump needs to sit his fatass out on this one.
Trump's approval rating is plummeting with the demographic that elected him: gen z, millennial and gen x white males, and this is why. His approval rating will be single digits by the time he leaves office, and contrary to what he said, the majority who despise his takes on this are smart, informed white males. We see through the bullshite: hundreds of thousands of these people aren't going back. He's lying. He wants the headlines, not the American jobs. He's a traitor, and when they start with the kangaroo courts after he leaves office and democrats are back in control, he won't have anyone left to give a shite.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:34 am to mudshuvl05
Dude, how can you expect positive GDP numbers if we don’t import cheap foreign labor?
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:43 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:a large portion of Trump’s base in rural/flyover blue collar and small town office workers that have no idea what the real world looks like now
It's intentionally deceptive about the H1B issue, aimed at ignorant MAGA NPCs and boomer types who are ignorant as to the actual discussion being had.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:44 am to ragincajun03
Trump has sold us out. He is actually enabling the invasion.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:50 am to ragincajun03
quote:
Trump defends skilled immigration, breaking with MAGA base
Is it too late for me to switch my vote to Kamala and the feminine hygiene expert? I
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:51 am to KCT
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Is it too late for me to switch my vote to Kamala and the feminine hygiene expert? I
No, but you can stop voting for RINOs like Trump in the future.
JD Vance isnt going to continue Trumps economic fiasco.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:52 am to ragincajun03
Well, MAGA is a common sense populist movement- that’s its appeal- it speaks to efficiencies and competency. If it evolves into something purely ideological ( deport all foreigners) it begins to be less efficient and competent. And there are a LOT of moving parts that are industry specific and there have to be immigration policy exceptions and carve outs etc that allow industries to succeed.One size fits all is just handicapping ourselves.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:53 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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a large portion of Trump’s base in rural/flyover blue collar and small town office workers that have no idea what the real world looks like now
Notice how substantive responses to me died, ITT
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:54 am to AU86
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Trump has sold us out. He is actually enabling the invasion.
It was always going to happen with his Braintrust now mostly tech billionaires.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:55 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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a large portion of Trump’s base in rural/flyover blue collar and small town office workers that have no idea what the real world looks like now
So your argument would be what exactly? People living in cities taking waymos are more in touch?
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:56 am to texag7
I think his point is they are not sophisticated enough to know this is upsetting to a decent portion of the base.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:56 am to mudshuvl05
I don’t think that comment of “904k white Americans fired” is correct. I’m guessing the bulk of that is people that retired mixed with the fact that while people are not reproducing at population sustaining levels.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:57 am to texag7
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So your argument would be what exactly? People living in cities taking waymos are more in touch?
They actually see/deal with the disproportionate amount of Indians coming on H1b showing the loopholes, inefficiencies, and fraud in the system that Trump is supporting with his bait and switch routine.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:57 am to HurricaneTiger
quote:yep.
A complete immigration is one thing. We’re talking about work visas specifically designed to fill roles Americans can’t fill. However, most of these , the companies just find ways not to.
I'm all for looking at...
quote:I'm not assuming that is true, or not true.
can be filled by Americans
I hate the automatic assumption that it isn't true mind you. I.e. stating that we're gonna issue __________ visas. It should be on a case by case basis, albeit fast tracked because if there is a valid need the usual 3 years to even touch the paperwork by our State Dept. isn't going to work.
The assumption that there is a need and setting a number before determining that need (true or not) is simple beauacratic laziness. Elon & AI could fix that response time in short order.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:58 am to ragincajun03
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Trump defends skilled immigration, breaking with MAGA base
The man is so out of touch. By the end of his term, he'll basically be Joe Biden.
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