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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:39 pm to
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And nobody can point to what law was broken (with some irony in there, I must add)


1. This is false. Anyone CAN point to the law that was broken.

Citing a law is what you are arguing against. Apparently you don't believe the law is actually the law. You have gone off the deep end.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471568 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:39 pm to
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you would have to acknowledge that Trump didn't ackshywully charge anyone with sedition.


The problem is, I never alleged this.

But you fight against them strawmen. It's what you do.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110334 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:40 pm to
It's the whole tomayto-tomahto deal of puffery, I suppose.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471568 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:41 pm to
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This is false. Anyone CAN point to the law that was broken.


They can cite a law, but not one that was broken.

quote:

Citing a law is what you are arguing against.

No. I said it's not possible. The argument is that there is no illegality.

The consequence of that argument is that nobody can point to a law that was broken.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47063 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:41 pm to
read better. I am asking why you are here bitching like a hysterical woman, because it simply cant be due to the contradition I outlined.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471568 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:42 pm to
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It's the whole tomayto-tomahto deal of puffery, I suppose.

To an extent, but one side's point is squarely within the law and the other looks like an unhinged retard arguing a path outside of the law.

Again, MAGA stupidity. muh fight nonsense
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471568 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:42 pm to
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I am asking why you are here bitching


Again, you're asking about something that isn't occurring.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47063 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:44 pm to
You are definitely bitching. I'll ask again. Why are you here attacking OP for making the exact same logical connection you made in the original thread?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471568 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:45 pm to
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You are definitely bitching.

Naw.

I expect the MAGA stupidity. I take joy in pointing it out.

quote:

Why are you here attacking OP for making the exact same logical connection you made in the original thread?


Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137078 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:46 pm to
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"They are literally saying to 1.3 million active duty service members to defy the chain of command, not to follow lawful orders!"
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So that is a lie.
They are not literally doing that.
No!
Often the word "literally" in your posts is literal pleonasm.

In this case though, it goes beyond that. The applicable term would be "technically," not literally. Because the literal implication to young servicemen and women is there are unlawful orders being issued, and it is therefore unlawful to follow them. That is the literal purpose of the clip.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47063 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:47 pm to
so you are just here to be a contrarian troll. Just like every other day.

at least we got that cleared up.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
20671 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

"Every single order that is given to this United States military by this Commander in Chief and through this chain of command, through the Secretary of War is lawful and the courts have proven that."


Exactly. US Representatives and Senators are sowing doubt into the minds of the military soldier. That split second of doubt after receiving a lawful command could be the difference of life or death for the soldier or soldiers under command of that soldier.

There are, of course, those struggling lawyers on this board who would love to see soldiers be forced to contact a lawyer before following a command.

Hence, the planned and coordinated statements by the Democratic politicians to sow doubt among soldiers and dissension within the populace.

Please let me know if such comments by politicians has ever occurred before regarding military command orders.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471568 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:47 pm to
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so you are just here to be a contrarian troll. Just like every other day.

No. You're creating a question based on a strawman. I'm just pointing that out in real time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471568 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Often the word "literally" in your posts is literal pleonasm.

It was intentionally meant to mean the textbook definition of "literally"

quote:

The applicable term would be "technically," not literally

Naw.

quote:

Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. You *must* refuse illegal orders.


Literally is applicable.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
76350 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:48 pm to
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I personally believe what Trump did was more of a warning shot than anything to the dems to watch their rhetoric because they were dangerously close to seditious behavior.

But the lawyers involved might see they actually stepped over the line

He always gives the guilty an opportunity to do the right thing. When they choose to continue in their schemes, then they willingly put their own liberty at risk.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47228 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:50 pm to
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It's nonsensical diversion tactics to avoid having the actual discussion about the actual words used.


This is your schtick
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471568 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:51 pm to
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This is your schtick


Yes, I try my best to keep things on point and relevant and avoid unnecessary diversions.

Just like it's my thing to point out straw man arguments
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
40858 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:53 pm to
You know those Dems were trying to create the impression that Trump was giving illegal orders.

Trump played the game right back.

I don't know why yall keep arguing about this.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
3592 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

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they were dangerously close to seditious behavior.


quote:

Not really
.

Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10036 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:55 pm to
He just threw it back at them and used the same tactic they did.
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