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re: Trump election autopsies. You believe this?
Posted on 2/4/21 at 5:56 am to jimmy the leg
Posted on 2/4/21 at 5:56 am to jimmy the leg
quote:It is difficult to have a reasonable discussion with someone, when you acknowledge that you disagree with him and explain your reasoning, yet his only response is to assert (without evidence) that you are “lying” about your reasoning,
jimmy the leg
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 6:08 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Some of y’all will never understand that the motivation for many Biden voters was not Biden himself, it was voting against trump.
Yet another historical anomaly as this type of candidate usually results in poor turnout.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 6:20 am to Robin Masters
quote:The Trump base is utterly convinced (in a positive way) that he is a once-in-a-lifetime sort of candidate, but cannot conceive that he elicits the same degree of NEGATIVE fervor in the other side.
Yet another historical anomaly as this type of candidate usually results in poor turnout.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 6:38 am to EA6B
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Republicans carried almost all down ballot races, even gaining house seats. Strange outcome, if Democrats were committing fraud seems like they would have won those seats.
Sure, sure. Then a person with greater than average intelligence looks at the number of biden only ballots and realizes that in order to fabricate enough biden ballots, the dems didn't have enough time to fill out entire ballots to steal the election. Less than 1% of president-only ballots in GA went for Trump. You'd have to be seriously mentally challenged to believe that was legitimate.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 6:38 am to Mickey Goldmill
Wait, in 2016, all the Dims could do (besides making up shite about Russia) was whine about the Electoral College, now you want to justify the fraud by using it?
The hypocrisy of the Left never ceases to amaze. It’s like a badge of honor.
The hypocrisy of the Left never ceases to amaze. It’s like a badge of honor.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 6:38 am to AggieHank86
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The Trump base is utterly convinced (in a positive way) that he is a once-in-a-lifetime sort of candidate, but cannot conceive that he elicits the same degree of NEGATIVE fervor in the other side.
Again, this scenario typically yields low turnout not record high turnout.
And with this reasoning all you’ve done is outline more justification (in the minds of the complicit) for dems to commit fraud.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 6:40 am
Posted on 2/4/21 at 6:38 am to Mickey Goldmill
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I support the idea behind BLM
So you hate white people. Got it.
Maybe your hatred for whites motivated you to vote for Biden.
I will pray for your hatred.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 6:43 am to Mickey Goldmill
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It literally doesn’t lol. Winning more states and counties literally means nothing in the electoral college.
Democrats turned the election into a complete shite show. Changing the rules, sometimes illegally, and sometimes days before the election itself, helped Democrats.
And Biden did not win the swing states by very much. Fraud absolutely happened, and IMHO, the lax rules allowed more of it.
Signature match was thrown out in several places.
It was a shite show and yes, fraud mattered.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 6:43 am to AggieHank86
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The Trump base is utterly convinced (in a positive way) that he is a once-in-a-lifetime sort of candidate, but cannot conceive that he elicits the same degree of NEGATIVE fervor in the other side.
Why do yall keep floating out this bullshite excuse when Obama vs Romney already disproved this theory?
Romney, as bad as he was was a better candidate than Biden and everyone on the right hated Obama. So if voting against somebody was more of a motivating factor than voting for somebody Obama would never have been re-elected.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:23 am to Seldom Seen
quote:You are deluding yourself, if you think that Obama was hated as much and by as many people as Trump.
Why do yall keep floating out this bullshite excuse when Obama vs Romney already disproved this theory?
I am not going to cite every favorability/unfavorability poll. You can look them up. In summary, Obama’s favorability ratings were far higher than Trump. Trump’s unfavorabilty ratings were far higher than Obama. At the end of their terms, Obama had favorability of 59%. Trump had 34%
To over-simplify a bit ... The Right hated Obama, and the Left hated Trump. No surprises there. The Center sort of liked Obama, and the Center disliked Trump rather intensely. Therein lies the difference.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 7:49 am
Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:51 am to AggieHank86
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You are deluding yourself, if you think that Obama was hated as much and by as many people as Trump.
You are deluding yourself if you think Trump is not loved more than Obama ever was...
Check vote totals.
I guess Sleepy Joe was more popular than the most popular Republican in modern history and over 15 million votes more popular than black Jesus.
Cause that passes the smell test.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:00 am to Mickey Goldmill
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It literally doesn’t lol. Winning more states and counties literally means nothing in the electoral college.
Yeh, that's why Congress Democrats also went up bigly...
oh wait, they didnt. They actually lost a whole bunch of seats where Biden won.
Cry me a river, BagdadBob
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:08 am to blueboxer1119
quote:You are making a mistake typical among Trump’s most-ardent supporters. You are mistaking the DEPTH of his support for BREADTH.
most popular Republican in modern history
There is zero doubt that his most-ardent supporters love the guy ...probably indeed more than any modern President. But that is simply not as MANY people as you think it is. You are living in a bubble.
You have convinced yourself that Trump is the most popular Republican president in modern history, but he is not even the most popular GOP president of the last two. His favorability rating NEVER exceeded 49%, Bush-43 hit 90%. Bush-41 hit 89%. Reagan hit 71%. Ford hit 70%. Nixon hit 66%. Ike hit 77%.
Average during the term? Trump was 41%. Next lowest GOP president? Nixon at 49%
Once you step outside his core supporters, a very strong argument can be made that Trump was the LEAST popular GOP president since the advent of these polls. You and those like you will never accept these numbers, because you are caught in a feedback loop within your Trump-loving bubble.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 8:23 am
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:28 am to AggieHank86
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You are making a mistake typical among Trump’s most-ardent supporters. You are mistaking the DEPTH of his support for BREADTH.
Yeh, that's why the dems lost so many seats... cause breadth and shite.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:32 am to TaderSalad
quote:You are trying to be sarcastic, but you are correct.
Yeh, that's why the dems lost so many seats... cause breadth and shite.
The BREADTH of support was for the GOP. That is why the GOP did well in the House. The difference in the POTUS race was (1) mail-in voting, combined with (2) the DEPTH of dislike for Trump.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:46 am to AggieHank86
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(2) the DEPTH of dislike for Trump.
Well, let's not pretend that the dislike didn't have anything to do with the media calling his supporters racist white nationalist terrorists the entire time.
If you think their narrative will change with a Cruz or DeSantis, think again. The "you're a racist" narrative has been in effect since Obama ran for his first term, if not even further back.
The "dislike" of Trump was fabricated, and will continue with whomever comes next.
Taking an approach that we need to capitulate to the DNC to avoid that crap is self-defeating.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 8:47 am
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:14 am to shoelessjoe
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Some of y’all will never understand that the motivation for many Biden voters was not Biden himself, it was voting against trump.
CNN told you that?
Not at all. I deduced that myself. I have a group of friends that never vote at all and aren't very political in the least. They all voted for Biden and it was motivated by wanting to vote against Trump.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:15 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Not at all. I deduced that myself. I have a group of friends that never vote at all and aren't very political in the least. They all voted for Biden and it was motivated by wanting to vote against Trump.
Sounds like they are idiots.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:17 am to BiteMe2020
quote:Maybe so, and maybe no.quote:Sounds like they are idiots.
Not at all. I deduced that myself. I have a group of friends that never vote at all and aren't very political in the least. They all voted for Biden and it was motivated by wanting to vote against Trump.
But that has zero bearing upon the question of whether they existed and whether they voted.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:14 am to AggieHank86
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But that is simply not as MANY people as you think it is
Most legal votes in the history of the United States says you are wrong.
That's logic even a 1st grader can understand.
Try to keep up.
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