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Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28975 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:21 pm to
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Can someone explain to me what Manafort was guilty of and how it connected to Trump. Legit question and explain it to me like I'm an idiot.


You do realize none of that matters, right?

Impeachment is a political tool. Oh, sure, it says "high crimes and misdemeanors". But what appeal process does an impeached President have? Zero.

Congress can vote to impeach, and the Senate can vote to convict, regardless of the so called "crimes." It ends up being whatever 435 representatives say it is.

Does anyone in their right mind believe that Bill Clinton would have survived an impeachment trial if he'd had Jimmy Carter's popularity and economic numbers?

Guilt or innocence has nothing to do with it. It's all about politics.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39136 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:21 pm to
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If they run on impeachment, they had better be ready to deliver on impeachment. If they deliver on impeachment, they’re setting the stage for the continued devolution of Washington power. And for the next Democrat President to be impeached on political grounds only.


Of course. And it never even occurs to Dems that "with whatever measure ye mette...it shall be metted again unto you". And we walked on the moon. Geez!
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28975 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:22 pm to
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He's not getting impeached without a Dem majority for starters.

Even still he’s not getting impeached unless the Dems have a pretty big majority in the house. You’re not going to have every single Dem in the house vote for impeachment.


I don't think they want Mike Pence to be President. But they have a base they have to play to also.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36096 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:22 pm to
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A poll? Lol Where did u see anything about a poll? This is a bet and I think ppl are coming to realize its a legit possibility Trump gets impeached.





You clearly don't know how betting works.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:22 pm to
How is a betting line from a website BREAKING news?

Some of you are beyond help
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127343 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:22 pm to
That’s where “might makes right” ends up.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33127 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Impeachment is a political tool.


Democrats had better pray that republicans don't control the house when their guy is POTUS.
Posted by Game2620
Canada
Member since Dec 2013
1468 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:24 pm to
Impeached for what exactly?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87751 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:24 pm to
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How is a betting line from a website BREAKING news?

Some of you are beyond help
Cut the "new" guy some slack, how would the alter know the intricacies of the board?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91502 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:25 pm to
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Needing 2/3 of the Senate says otherwise.


I could be mistake, but being impeached and being convicted are two separate ordeals. It's very unlikely he's convicted by the Senate, but the House could impeach him regardless.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28975 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:25 pm to
quote:


BREAKING - Trump's Impeachment Odds Surge following Manafort Conviction
quote:
Impeachment is a political tool.


Democrats had better pray that republicans don't control the house when their guy is POTUS.


They did. Didn't work out so well, as I recall.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18898 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:26 pm to
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And for the next Democrat President to be impeached on political


They never learn

How many times was Harry Reid warned about the dangers of implementing the nuclear option in the Senate?
Posted by Hightide12
Member since Nov 2012
2730 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:26 pm to
You’re correct I misread his OP.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77562 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:26 pm to
WTF is this shite?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28975 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:27 pm to
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Needing 2/3 of the Senate says otherwise.


I could be mistake, but being impeached and being convicted are two separate ordeals. It's very unlikely he's convicted by the Senate, but the House could impeach him regardless.



No, you're correct.

The wild cards in the Senate then would be...

1. how many GOP Senators has Trump pissed off.
2. how many Dem Senators really don't want to see a President Mike Pence.

I could see Senators from each side crossing over.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176473 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:29 pm to
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I know how unpopular polls are, but 538 has an median projection of 226 Dems to 209 Republicans after November elections. I'd think that would give them enough wiggle room to impeach.

The Dems had a 257 to 178 advantage in 2009 and they barely got Obamacare passed.
Posted by Tony Tiger89
EVERYWHERE
Member since Feb 2008
2861 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:32 pm to
I have $500 for straight bet, Trump won't get impeach during his term in office !! Me and President fricktard Jerry, let me know PJ !!
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33127 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Impeached for what exactly?



It was her turn.

And Manafort cheated on his taxes 12 years ago.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21729 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:36 pm to
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538


It will be a while before I take his polls seriously again.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:37 pm to
truly hilarious
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