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Posted on 11/26/25 at 3:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You lie more than you diddle your own arse.
This is just fricking creepy. How this is what came to your mind is so weird. Come out of the closet already. Good lord.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 3:11 pm to Nevada_Tiger
Some companies are absorbing the cost but it isn’t going to continue. If you pay attention to financial news regularly, it’s been reported fairly regularly that companies are going to start passing the cost along or adjusting production cost. Margins can’t be crimped forever or stock prices get hit and layoffs ensue
Posted on 11/26/25 at 3:59 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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bought an item from China just yesterday. The pricing was the same as it was a year ago, despite the added tariffs. The company knows that they don't have any room to increase pricing in a competitive market. Other products the tariff is added as a separate line item. You obviously know nothing about this topic.
We purchase a product that is only made in China and Germany. The German product is too expensive. We import approximately $150-250 k of this product every single month. This year, we have purchased $0.00. The reason? It’s too expensive.
Chinese suppliers aren’t eating a 50% tariff, and in certain months , the tariff has been even more.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 11/26/25 at 4:00 pm to Ten Bears
How much more are we paying in essentials due to tariffs?
Be specific
Be specific
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Chinese companies arent paying the tariff
No.
They are stealing American IP, making products nearly identical to the ones made in America, using CCP subsidies to undercut the American producer, gaining market share, bankrupting American companies, buying them at cut rates, creating monopolies, then creating price points that make them bank.
IF the U.S. company still has the wherewithal to sue the Chinese company, the CCP just makes sure that they buy the distressed US company in order to make the lawsuit go away.
You are now enlightened.
Happy Thanksgiving amigo.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:43 am to jimmy the leg
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using CCP subsidies to undercut the American producer
Just like our automakers and big banks.
Happy Thanksgiving to you too..
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:01 am to Ten Bears
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And they have cut shifts at their plant in Chattanooga, laid off salaried employees and also furloughed 200 people. So yes, tariffs are “working”
Strange this happened after they unionized.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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using CCP subsidies to undercut the American producer
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Just like our automakers and big banks.
We have different “ours” evidently.
Nonetheless, enjoy your day.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:52 am to Nevada_Tiger
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Yes, the tariffs are a tax. But they are a tax that’s being paid primarily by foreign companies and foreign governments, not by the American consumers we were all supposed to be weeping for. And that changes everything.
We tried to tell the Panicans this back in April but they refused to hear it.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:53 am to jimmy the leg
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We have different “ours” evidently.
Not really. We subsidize "too big to fail" corporations, which screws markets for small/medium businesses.
It would be nice to feel some moral superiority here, but we are obviously doing similar, and picking winners and losers.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It would be nice to feel some moral superiority here, but we are obviously doing similar, and picking winners and losers.
Not that I disagree in essence, but I refuse to pick the CCP.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:06 am to Nevada_Tiger
LINK
Layoffs are piling up, raising worker anxiety. Here are some companies that have cut jobs recently
WYATTE GRANTHAM-PHILIPS
Updated Thu, November 27, 2025 at 4:28 AM EST 5 min read
NEW YORK (AP) —
SNIP - Full article below -
Some companies have pointed to rising operational costs spanning from U.S. President Donald Trump's barrage of new tariffs and shifts in consumer spending. Others cite corporate restructuring more broadly — or are redirecting money to artificial intelligence. Federal employees have encountered additional doses of uncertainty, after Trump returned to office at the start of the year, federal jobs were cut by the thousands.
The impasse put key economic data on hold, too. In a delayed report released last week, the Labor Department said U.S. employers added a surprising 119,000 jobs in September. But unemployment rose to 4.4% — and other troubling details emerged, including revisions showing the economy actually lost 4,000 jobs in August. The shutdown also resulted in holes for more recent hiring numbers. The government says it won’t release a full jobs report for October.
Here are some of the largest job cuts announced recently:
Verizon
Also in November, Verizon (VZ) began laying off more than 13,000 employees. In a staff memo announcing the cuts, CEO Dan Schulman said that the telecommunications giant needed to simplify operations and “reorient” the entire company.
UPS
United Parcel Service (UPS) has disclosed about 48,000 job cuts this year as part of turnaround efforts, which arrive amid wider shifts in the company's shipping outputs. UPS also closed daily operations at 93 leased and owned buildings during the first nine months of this year.
Intel
Intel (INTC) has moved to shed thousands of jobs — with the struggling chipmaker working to revive its business. In July, CEO Lip-Bu Tan said Intel expected to end the year with 75,000 “core” workers, excluding subsidiaries, through layoffs and attrition. That’s down from 99,500 core employees reported the end of last year. The company previously announced a 15% workforce reduction.
Amazon
Amazon (AMZN) said in October that it will cut about 14,000 corporate jobs, close to 4% of its workforce, as the online retail giant ramps up spending on AI while trimming costs elsewhere. A letter to employees said most workers would be given 90 days to look for a new position internally.
Nestlé
In mid-October, Nestlé (NESN.SW, NSRGY) said it would be cutting 16,000 jobs globally — as part of wider cost cutting aimed at reviving its financial performance amid headwinds like rising commodity costs and U.S. imposed tariffs. The Swiss food giant said the layoffs would take place over the next two years.
Layoffs are piling up, raising worker anxiety. Here are some companies that have cut jobs recently
WYATTE GRANTHAM-PHILIPS
Updated Thu, November 27, 2025 at 4:28 AM EST 5 min read
NEW YORK (AP) —
SNIP - Full article below -
Some companies have pointed to rising operational costs spanning from U.S. President Donald Trump's barrage of new tariffs and shifts in consumer spending. Others cite corporate restructuring more broadly — or are redirecting money to artificial intelligence. Federal employees have encountered additional doses of uncertainty, after Trump returned to office at the start of the year, federal jobs were cut by the thousands.
The impasse put key economic data on hold, too. In a delayed report released last week, the Labor Department said U.S. employers added a surprising 119,000 jobs in September. But unemployment rose to 4.4% — and other troubling details emerged, including revisions showing the economy actually lost 4,000 jobs in August. The shutdown also resulted in holes for more recent hiring numbers. The government says it won’t release a full jobs report for October.
Here are some of the largest job cuts announced recently:
Verizon
Also in November, Verizon (VZ) began laying off more than 13,000 employees. In a staff memo announcing the cuts, CEO Dan Schulman said that the telecommunications giant needed to simplify operations and “reorient” the entire company.
UPS
United Parcel Service (UPS) has disclosed about 48,000 job cuts this year as part of turnaround efforts, which arrive amid wider shifts in the company's shipping outputs. UPS also closed daily operations at 93 leased and owned buildings during the first nine months of this year.
Intel
Intel (INTC) has moved to shed thousands of jobs — with the struggling chipmaker working to revive its business. In July, CEO Lip-Bu Tan said Intel expected to end the year with 75,000 “core” workers, excluding subsidiaries, through layoffs and attrition. That’s down from 99,500 core employees reported the end of last year. The company previously announced a 15% workforce reduction.
Amazon
Amazon (AMZN) said in October that it will cut about 14,000 corporate jobs, close to 4% of its workforce, as the online retail giant ramps up spending on AI while trimming costs elsewhere. A letter to employees said most workers would be given 90 days to look for a new position internally.
Nestlé
In mid-October, Nestlé (NESN.SW, NSRGY) said it would be cutting 16,000 jobs globally — as part of wider cost cutting aimed at reviving its financial performance amid headwinds like rising commodity costs and U.S. imposed tariffs. The Swiss food giant said the layoffs would take place over the next two years.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:13 am to Bigdawgb
As others have pointed out, it quickly gets far more complex than this example. That's why the tariffs seem to be a difficult topic, there is so much nuance missed on message boards & social media discussions.
-You could substitute beans/rice for bread
But how can I make a roast beef sandwich with rice?
-You could pocket the $5 and spend it on something else in YOUR town
If I wanted to I would, but I don't want to, I want a roast beef sandwich.
-You could decide you're pissed at the price and learn to bake your own bread
I don't want to make bread, I don't know how, do not want to learn and would probably not make it as good as the professionals do, so give me back the old bread at the old price.
-Town B could be too far away for the travel to make sense
Fine by me, I don't want to travel to town B, until recently I didn't have to and I like that I did not have to.
-Town B's bread is cheap but it sucks
That's why I want my bread from my town, just like I had it all my life.
-You could substitute beans/rice for bread
But how can I make a roast beef sandwich with rice?
-You could pocket the $5 and spend it on something else in YOUR town
If I wanted to I would, but I don't want to, I want a roast beef sandwich.
-You could decide you're pissed at the price and learn to bake your own bread
I don't want to make bread, I don't know how, do not want to learn and would probably not make it as good as the professionals do, so give me back the old bread at the old price.
-Town B could be too far away for the travel to make sense
Fine by me, I don't want to travel to town B, until recently I didn't have to and I like that I did not have to.
-Town B's bread is cheap but it sucks
That's why I want my bread from my town, just like I had it all my life.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:13 am to Ten Bears
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This year, we have purchased $0.00. The reason? It’s too expensive.
So does your business not need the product after all? Were you able to substitute with another product? Did your business discontinue the product?
What was the resolution to not purchasing about $2,000,000.00 annually of a now to expensive product?
Not ragging on you, just honestly curious about a real world resolution to your situation.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:29 am to Eurocat
Life's gotta be rough for some people, huh?
Many people will adapt and put beans and rice in a corn tortilla and move along. Something tells me some people are not going to be happy about or adjust to anything or any changes.
Many people will adapt and put beans and rice in a corn tortilla and move along. Something tells me some people are not going to be happy about or adjust to anything or any changes.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:32 am to jimmy the leg
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Not that I disagree in essence, but I refuse to pick the CCP.
Our "too big to fail" corporations that live on the govt teat need competition.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:36 am to Nevada_Tiger
Report on more tariffs on the way but for some reason passed but slow on the pick up for things like Kitchens, etc.
LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:40 pm to Victor R Franko
Yeah, sorry, I'll choose the easy way out with no change. Gimme my bread at the old prices before my roast beef spoils.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Our "too big to fail" corporations that live on the govt teat need competition.
Mom and Pop have been gutted by China. Yet, you refuse to criticize them.
You really are all in on the CCP.
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