re: Tulsa&#39;s new Black mayor proposes $100M reparations package

Posted by NIH

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:50 am to oklahogjr

You’re a libertarian and support reparations? Do you support using tax payer dollars for anything that tugs at your heart strings? Explain

Posted by CastleBravo

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:53 am to BowDownToLSU

So Tulsa is the new Jackson?

Posted by nealnan8

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:08 am to OweO

It's not necessarily about anything "working". Reparations are for paying people, or their descendants, for being wronged. The question is, was this government sponsored - like slavery or Japanese American internment during WW 2? If this was determined not to be government sponsored, then it was merely a crime, then government should pay no reparations.
If it is determined that this riot was government sponsored, then there is precedent for reparations - The Civile Liberties Act of 1988 (signed into law by Regan), specifically called for reparation payments to survivors of Japanese Amercian internment, PLUS their descendants.

Posted by The Squonk

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:35 am to BowDownToLSU

Tulsa residents voted for this?

Posted by oklahogjr

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:37 am to NIH

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You’re a libertarian and support reparations? Do you support using tax payer dollars for anything that tugs at your heart strings? Explain

I support reading...this is a private charity that may receive some land from the city.

Posted by NIH

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:43 am to oklahogjr

So tax payer dollars?

Posted by oklahogjr

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:14 am to NIH

Nah most of the property they'd receive was taken over by the city for free as either derelict properties or given away to city. This moves it back to private charity for the people vs creating government programs.

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Posted by Rip Torn

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:32 am to oklahogjr

You should probably stop talking for the rest of your life

Posted by NIH

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:52 am to oklahogjr

Lol

Posted by Ozarkshillbilly

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:56 am to Lsuhoohoo

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This is all reparations will ever be. Its not going to be a direct payment. It'll be politicians "creating opportunity programs" which is just stealing tax payer monies and assigning it to donors and friends and themselves.

This, this right here. It's a communist scam that will not help the people the program intends to to help. I'd argue, that community will suffer more as there will be no increase in their incomes or opportunities while having an area still run down because the people receiving the money have no intention of rebuilding. Even if the recipients of the money wanted to rebuild, there would only be a couple of smaller projects completed as they don't have the experience of large scale upgrades. In the end, money is wasted, costs go up and those leaders will be talking about another round of re-investment as they believe, "they didn't do enough the first time around."

Posted by RT1941

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:30 am to dallastigers

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They already always ignore decades of affirmative action, quotas, special scholarships, special treatment, lower expectations, punitive damages granted in any lawsuit involving alleged racism to any small degree, their out of proportion generational welfare, costs of their out of proportion violent crime across the country, the costs of multiple riots, the cost of trying to teach people how to deal with blacks’ fragile egos and broken culture, and all the private charity that has been given to them one way or the other.

They ignore more recent stuff after the summer of love. More money was flowing in towards blacks than I have ever seen. Given unearned employment positions, scholarships, even med school admissions with lower standards, and so on including limiting negative press on crimes by blacks.

All this and they STILL aren't satisfied because they can't for the life of them find a way to keep up with the cracka's.

Posted by oklahogjr

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:10 am to NIH

Easy to tell those who know Tulsa history and what's actually being discussed here currently and the average poliboard poster with no background knowledge here.

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The plan by Mayor Monroe Nichols, the first Black mayor of Oklahoma's second-largest city, would not provide direct cash payments to descendants or the last two centenarian survivors of the attack that killed as many as 300 Black people. He made the announcement at the Greenwood Cultural Center, located in the once-thriving district of North Tulsa that was destroyed by a white mob.

Nichols said he does not use the term reparations, which he calls politically charged, characterizing his sweeping plan instead as a “road to repair.”

“For 104 years, the Tulsa Race Massacre has been a stain on our city's history,” Nichols said Sunday after receiving a standing ovation from several hundred people. “The massacre was hidden from history books, only to be followed by the intentional acts of redlining, a highway built to choke off economic vitality and the perpetual underinvestment of local, state and federal governments.

“Now it's time to take the next big steps to restore.”

Nichols said the proposal wouldn't require city council approval, although the council would need to authorize the transfer of any city property to the trust, something he said was highly likely.

The private charitable trust would be created with a goal to secure $105 million in assets, with most of the funding either secured or committed by June 1, 2026. Although details would be developed over the next year by an executive director and a board of managers, the plan calls for the bulk of the funding, $60 million, to go toward improving buildings and revitalizing the city's north side.

“The Greenwood District at its height was a center of commerce,” Nichols said in a telephone interview. “So what was lost was not just something from North Tulsa or the Black community. It actually robbed Tulsa of an economic future that would have rivaled anywhere else in the world."

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:54 am to oklahogjr

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actually robbed Tulsa of an economic future that would have rivaled anywhere else in the world."

Posted by Thecoz

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Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:01 am to roadGator

Maybe a little embellishment but who knows what could have been..

Fwiw
“Tulsa, Oklahoma, was once a major center for the oil business, earning the nickname "Oil Capital of the World" according to the Oklahoma Historical Society and the American Oil & Gas Historical Society. This title was established due to the discovery of oil fields nearby, including the Red Fork field in 1901, which spurred significant economic growth and development in the city. Many oil companies established their headquarters in Tulsa, making it a hub for the industry”

Downtown Tulsa had a lot of the seven sister oil companies there for a while .. heck Utica area is full of mansion owned by the Phillips dynasty and others.. the area looks a lot like uptown New Orleans.. Tulsa is a hub for distribution services and many management offices there..

Lived there while with a major but was transferred to Houston.. most people I knew did not really want to transfers out.. pretty nice city.

Oh yeah subsurface geophysics was invented there on the outskirts also.. there is a little sign on the side of the road showing where the first seismic section was acquired.

This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 11:05 am