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Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:06 pm to Apollyon
I'm referring to communion.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:06 pm to Auburn80
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I’m past the point of judging people, I just want to know if they are a good and decent person.
Interesting and has nothing to do with anything, including any Christian doctrine. Okay I'm out. This thread has gone astray.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:14 pm to Rammin TX
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And that is why I was an Episcopalian, the church split and am now a proud Anglican.
Ah, the religion invented so Henry VIII could get divorced. Anglicans were the gay Methodists of the 16th century.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:18 pm to adp
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You are saved by grace, not bread. This isn't a mic drop.
That's not how it is in the Methodist Church (UMC). This is a Methodist thread, so...
I believe in God the Father Almighty
Maker of Heaven. And Earth.
And In Jesus Christ. His only Son, Our Lord.
Who, conceived of the HOLY Spirit, Born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate.
He was Crucified. Dead. And Buried.
On the third day, He rose from the Dead. He ascended into HEAVEN and He sitteth at the right hand of the Father.
From thence, He shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy SPIRIT. The holy, catholic church...
The communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and the LIFE everlasting.
AMEN.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:22 pm to adp
Communion is wonderful fellowship amongst Christian brethren.
It is not the Salvation of eternal Grace.
It is not the Salvation of eternal Grace.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:25 pm to Auburn80
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To answer your question, if they were a good preacher and led by example with good deeds I would. I’m past the point of judging people, I just want to know if they are a good and decent person.
A good and decent person?
A good preacher?
Leading by example?
Good deeds?
I have verses for you.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:30 pm to Boatshoes
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Who said anything about paradise?
Everything is about Paradise, my dude
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:35 pm to Apollyon
I thought the vote this past Spring was that the Traditional doctrine would be adhered to. Is the news today that traditional churches would now have to leave?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:37 pm to Boatshoes
John 6, which you quoted, is one of my favorite chapters of the Holy Gospel.
Try verse 26 of this chapter: Verily I say unto thee, You seek me. Not because you saw miracles but because you ate of the loaves, and you were filled.
Now read verse 35.
That awkward moment when you are FAR out of your depth...
Try verse 26 of this chapter: Verily I say unto thee, You seek me. Not because you saw miracles but because you ate of the loaves, and you were filled.
Now read verse 35.
That awkward moment when you are FAR out of your depth...
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:48 pm to tiger568
This schism has yet to be decided on in Conference. The original homosexuality, homosexual ordination of ministers, and the homosexual marriage article was voted down.
From a personal perspective, this article is decided. We will decide if the Northeast and west coast Methodist churches want to split over it...
From a personal perspective, this article is decided. We will decide if the Northeast and west coast Methodist churches want to split over it...
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:52 pm to Rammin TX
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And that is why I was an Episcopalian, the church split and am now a proud Anglican.
This.
Went through "revision" of the Prayer Book, ordination of female clergy, innumerable and endless "conversations" and stayed and fought as long as we could.
Found a Reformed Episcopal Church in Baton Rouge and have been completely at home with orthodox Anglican worship and theology.
Scriptural. Liturgical. Traditional. In the sense that it represents what the Apostolic Church believed and taught, Catholic. Couldn't ask for more.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:55 pm to tiggerthetooth
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There's a difference between no homosexuals allowed in positions of authority and no homosexuals allowed period. Homosexuals are allowed inside churches, but they will not celebrate or promote homosexual behaviors.
I understand. "Tolerance" is sort of a vague term. I understand Christians welcome all sinners, but that doesn't mean homosexuals can hold leadership positions.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:55 pm to crazyatthecamp
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The drunk might be struggling to quit.
Plenty aren't.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 12:00 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Plenty aren't.
Yes, but how do you know who is and who isn't?
It's pretty apparent when it comes to homosexuality. Does Bob still live with you? Ok, yea, you're not trying to stop.
I will say that whoever brought up divorce outside of infidelity brought up a good point. Call it whataboutism all you want, but it is hypocritical and highlights how most religious people pick and choose want morals they want to uphold.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 12:02 am
Posted on 1/4/20 at 12:02 am to Apollyon
Downvote the Apostles' Creed....
Really?
Ok.
Really?
Ok.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 12:17 am to Eli Goldfinger
Another church trying to create God in man's image. Pity
Posted on 1/4/20 at 12:25 am to Apollyon
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You are saved by grace, not bread. This isn't a mic drop.
Seriously please tell me where in our Holy Bible requires the sacrament of eucharist for paradise?
Ask and you shall receive...
John 6:51-58
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I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.
The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.
This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
Then ties directly into Matthew 26:26-28
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While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, “Take and eat; this is my body.”
Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 12:41 am
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:48 am to Eli Goldfinger
This is all about money, property and pensions. At last Summer's Special General Session the Traditional model was upheld as the way forward. Now, the different factions want to move forward but be who they want to be. This new plan might seem like an amicable split and it gives churches, conferences and jurisdictions the opportunity to declare and yet keep their property (assets and liabilities) yet write their own set of rules (The Book of Discipline), keep putting money in the pension pot and go on their merry way.
Our next General Conference comes up this Spring. A bunch of delegates have changed and some factions have gained and some have lost. Thankfully, the most conservative group is the African Jurisdiction and they are the only one really growing at a fast pace.
I hope the adopt the current Traditional Plan using the current Book of Discipline and let those that don't agree with leave. If we stay separate but equal as they propose then my money that I give to my local Church and Conference might end up supporting their pet projects based on principles not in the Book of Discipline.
This group wants a peaceful coexistence but I don't see how that can happen with commingling of funds and resources.
Our next General Conference comes up this Spring. A bunch of delegates have changed and some factions have gained and some have lost. Thankfully, the most conservative group is the African Jurisdiction and they are the only one really growing at a fast pace.
I hope the adopt the current Traditional Plan using the current Book of Discipline and let those that don't agree with leave. If we stay separate but equal as they propose then my money that I give to my local Church and Conference might end up supporting their pet projects based on principles not in the Book of Discipline.
This group wants a peaceful coexistence but I don't see how that can happen with commingling of funds and resources.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 4:52 am to Apollyon
You’ve expressed a lot of opinions for a member of a pro homosexual, pro abortion denomination.
LINK
Back when I was a Baptist, I lived in a town where the UMC was the only congregation not to support the crisis pregnancy center.
I saw the SBC heading off the rails and did a significant amount of research into trying to find the original church.
Having done so, I tend to ignore the one of 26,000 modern opinions of what sola scriptura actually means.
It’s easy to do when you can read what a guy who was trained by the the guy who wrote it down has to say about something. You should try it sometime.
LINK
Back when I was a Baptist, I lived in a town where the UMC was the only congregation not to support the crisis pregnancy center.
I saw the SBC heading off the rails and did a significant amount of research into trying to find the original church.
Having done so, I tend to ignore the one of 26,000 modern opinions of what sola scriptura actually means.
It’s easy to do when you can read what a guy who was trained by the the guy who wrote it down has to say about something. You should try it sometime.
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