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re: U.S. commits to help Ukraine for 10 more yrs

Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Let's pretend this is true


Imagine if the US intervened after the Marco Polo Bridge incident in 1937?

Imagine if the US intervened after the Anschluss in 1938?

You fight bullies early and often as left unchecked they get stronger and cost more in lives, money, and resources to defeat.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:46 pm to
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but on the other hand Putin isn't going to stop with Ukraine.


Why not?
Posted by Lg
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:49 pm to
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Based on Putin's past if he is speaking he is lying?



You could say the same for 90% of Congress.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:51 pm to
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You could say the same for 90% of Congress.


I might go as high as 99.99%, but you are preaching to the choir at this point my brother.

Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:34 pm to
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FIFY

He is using Hitlers gameplay, just doing it much slower and hoping we will not notice or stop caring.


Remind me to never take anything you say seriously again (not that I did anyway).
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:34 pm to
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This narrative has no basis in fact. More disinformation.

How do you know?

Because taking Ukraine, by itself, does nothing for Russia. They have to secure the geographic choke points into Russian land by securing the Northern European Plain and Bessarabian Gap. To secure those requires taking Poland and at least part of Romania.
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:37 pm to
That is why I believe they will keep going. It doesn't hurt that ukraine is a bread basket
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:53 pm to
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Because taking Ukraine, by itself, does nothing for Russia. They have to secure the geographic choke points into Russian land by securing the Northern European Plain and Bessarabian Gap. To secure those requires taking Poland and at least part of Romania.


What a load of garbage
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:56 pm to
Are you people retarded? He’s having trouble beating Ukraine, what in the world makes you think he can attack a real country much less countries?
Posted by Fencepimp
Brusly
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:59 pm to
Yes, frick Ukraine. frick Brandon first. This has to STOP. Keep my taxes being used on my fricking soil.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:03 pm to
So you warhawks think Russia is going to launch an attack on NATO. Do you think Putin is suicidal?
Posted by trinidadtiger
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:39 pm to
So if they are going to take 50 billion a year and give it to Ukraine...........doesnt this ensure that Russia will now take all of Ukraine so they can get their 50 billion a year....Im asking for a friend.
Posted by Tantal
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:43 pm to
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What a load of garbage

Let me guess.....you still think this is about Nazis?
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:44 pm to
I wouldn’t doubt it. Russia is still getting money/goods from countries including the US indirectly

Countries supposedly supporting the embargo I should have said
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:50 pm to
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Because taking Ukraine, by itself, does nothing for Russia.


Are you serious?


Ukraine’s Top 10 Exports (roughly 50 billion pre invasion)


Cereals: US$8.3 billion (23% of total exports)
Animal/vegetable fats, oils, waxes: $5.6 billion (15.6%)
Oil seeds: $2.8 billion (7.8%)
Iron, steel: $2.6 billion (7.3%)
Ores, slag, ash: $1.9 billion (5.2%)
Electrical machinery, equipment: $1.7 billion (4.6%)
Wood: $1.5 billion (4.1%)
Food industry waste, animal fodder: $1.4 billion (3.9%)
Machinery including computers: $957.2 million (2.6%)
Meat: $892.3 million (2.5%)

When you consider that Commie China (red not white) is a Top trading partner for Ukraine they have real value to Red Commies like Russia / China / Yankee Korea.

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To secure those requires taking Poland and at least part of Romania.


Which is where Russia heads next after taking the Ukraine. Like Hitler, they eventually get to Poland and World War III

Just view it this way

WWII = Germany + Japan + Italy
WWIII = Russia + China + Middle East / Yankee Korea
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:51 pm to
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That is why I believe they will keep going. It doesn't hurt that ukraine is a bread basket


Up vote!
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:56 pm to
If Russia and NATO/US have all out war, I think China will just sit out and watch the destruction and scoop in afterwards as the only remaining superpower if there’s anything left
Posted by Rising
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 6:05 pm to
Ur a mainstream media watching tard
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 6:12 pm to
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I think China will just sit out and watch the destruction and scoop in afterwards as the only remaining superpower if there’s anything left


While your point makes sense in the micro view, Red China covets White China and the chip monopoly. They are testing now and if they see us distracted, they will have 99% of the global chips needed to run electronics for at least the next decade or two. Not like you can build a chip factory overnight. Probably takes at least a decade and possibly two decades from groundbreaking to running at efficient levels needed to fill demand.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 6:21 pm to
So you think if Russia attacks NATO/US and “WW3” begins, China will side with Russia, US/NATO or neither?
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