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re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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BTW: Chicago isnt in one of the top ten most violent cities
Completely irrelevant to the FACT that twice the insurrection act has been invoked because of gang violence. I proved you wrong. And ignorant. Like always.
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:42 pm to Pragmatist2025
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What happens when the marines leave?
They probably continue to kill each other. It's their culture. It could very well be in their DNA.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:43 pm to hogcard1964
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What specific "police action" is "illegal"?
Pretty much all of it under normal circumstances. Hence why Trump is addicted to declaring an Emergency in non-emergency situations.
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The Posse Comitatus Act, codified at 18 U.S.C. 1385, is a federal law that limits the use of the U.S. military in civilian law enforcement. Enacted in 1878, it was designed to prevent military involvement in domestic affairs without explicit authorization from Congress or the Constitution.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:45 pm to hogcard1964
quote:So it is going to return to the way it was before. That makes the effort seem futile.
They probably continue to kill each other. It's their culture.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Domestic Deployment Authorities
While the Insurrection Act of 1807 is a key law allowing domestic military deployment and is an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act, it outlines several scenarios for using troops within the U.S. beyond just insurrections:
State Request: The President can deploy forces to suppress insurrection or domestic violence if requested by a state's legislature or governor. For instance, federal assistance was provided during the 1992 Los Angeles riots at the request of the California governor.
Enforcing Federal Law: Without a state's request, the President can deploy troops if federal laws cannot be enforced through ordinary judicial means due to unlawful obstructions or rebellion. President Reagan utilized this power in 1987 to address a disturbance at a federal prison in Atlanta.
Protecting Civil Rights: Forces can be used to suppress violence or conspiracies that deprive inhabitants of their constitutional rights when a state is unable or unwilling to act. This authority was used by Presidents Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson to enforce school desegregation during the Civil Rights Movement.
National Guard (Title 32): The President or Secretary of Defense can request a state governor order their National Guard to perform duties, including some law enforcement, under state command where the Posse Comitatus Act does not apply.
Disasters and Public Health: Other laws like the Stafford Act permit military use for non-law enforcement tasks, such as responding to natural disasters or public health crises.
While the Insurrection Act of 1807 is a key law allowing domestic military deployment and is an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act, it outlines several scenarios for using troops within the U.S. beyond just insurrections:
State Request: The President can deploy forces to suppress insurrection or domestic violence if requested by a state's legislature or governor. For instance, federal assistance was provided during the 1992 Los Angeles riots at the request of the California governor.
Enforcing Federal Law: Without a state's request, the President can deploy troops if federal laws cannot be enforced through ordinary judicial means due to unlawful obstructions or rebellion. President Reagan utilized this power in 1987 to address a disturbance at a federal prison in Atlanta.
Protecting Civil Rights: Forces can be used to suppress violence or conspiracies that deprive inhabitants of their constitutional rights when a state is unable or unwilling to act. This authority was used by Presidents Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson to enforce school desegregation during the Civil Rights Movement.
National Guard (Title 32): The President or Secretary of Defense can request a state governor order their National Guard to perform duties, including some law enforcement, under state command where the Posse Comitatus Act does not apply.
Disasters and Public Health: Other laws like the Stafford Act permit military use for non-law enforcement tasks, such as responding to natural disasters or public health crises.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:48 pm to Pragmatist2025
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So it is going to return to the way it was before. That makes the effort seem futile.
What if marines are forced to cap some thugs while they're there? Isn't that a plus for society overall? Addition by subtraction?
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:50 pm to hogcard1964
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What if marines are forced to cap some thugs while they're there? Isn't that a plus for society overall?
If youre a fan of people like Stalin, sure.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:52 pm to hogcard1964
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The Constitution protects your right to live (not be arbitrarily killed) and the liberty to pursue a life. Stay out of this one. It's confusing when dealing with more than two morons.
Well that metric there should be US Marines on every street corner, gas station and classroom to protect every citizen from potential violence.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Did Stalin kill gangbangers that were destroying the Soviet Union?
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:53 pm to BBONDS25
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Completely irrelevant to the FACT that twice the insurrection act has been invoked because of gang violence
Riots
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:54 pm to CapnKangaroo
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there should be US Marines on every street corner, gas station and classroom to protect every citizen from potential violence.
Would this be a bad thing?
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:55 pm to hogcard1964
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Would this be a bad thing?
If you value things like the Constitution.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:55 pm to hogcard1964
quote:It seems like that would be the only reason you would have marines there in the first place. I am genuinely curious how this works though. If they see a violent crime and respond with deadly force, are reports written and usual things that follow normal police shootings?
What if marines are forced to cap some thugs while they're there?
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:56 pm to hogcard1964
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Would this be a bad thing?
I personally don’t want to live in a police state.
But you do you. Maybe while the jar heads are at it they can start arresting people for mean posts online too.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
ri·ot
/'ri?d?s/
noun
1.
marked by or involving public disorder.
"a riotous crowd"
/'ri?d?s/
noun
1.
marked by or involving public disorder.
"a riotous crowd"
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:56 pm to CapnKangaroo
Nobody is living in a police state
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:58 pm to Jbird
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Nobody is living in a police state
What would you call a place that has armed troops all over the place? Because that’s the person who I responding to is suggesting.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:59 pm to CapnKangaroo
All over the place?
Not even all over the place in DC
Not even all over the place in DC
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:59 pm to hogcard1964
They can also be brought in when there is an ongoing conspiracy to subvert the rule of law. AND they can also be brought in without the insurrection act even being invoked.
The boo birds here can just keep on booing. Their bullshite cries and stupid arguments don't make one iota of a difference as to what is about to transpire.
The boo birds here can just keep on booing. Their bullshite cries and stupid arguments don't make one iota of a difference as to what is about to transpire.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:59 pm to Jbird
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Nobody is living in a police state
The dude who wants a marine on every corner (Probably more criminals in that outfit than Chicago gangs) wants one.
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