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Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27360 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:26 pm to
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Cut the head(s) of the chicken(s) off and let them kill each other.
As always, follow the money. Seize their assets and cut their their access to money off. That money is useless if they can't launder it.

Even Pablo Escobar was a trapped prisoner of his own country with billions of US cash he couldn't spend.

Posted by PaulDrake
L.A. & Bayou Pa Pon
Member since Feb 2023
717 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:29 pm to
The cartel just better hope none of their people are stupid enough to attack our border patrol or military.

It seems like this could very well happen.

Best they can do now is pretty much to close shop, try to hide and wait out at least 4 years and hope their partners/ Democrats get some power back.


Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17118 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:31 pm to
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We don’t have the political will to defeat the cartels in a heavy, boots on the ground type conflict


Who said anything about a heavy, boots on the ground conflict?

Cartels have no hellfire missles. They have no drones other than upgraded hobby drones. No aircraft. No helos. No ships. No armor. No missles. No precision guided munitions. No artillery. No satellites. No sophisticated jamming. No allies. No f’n chance.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 4:50 pm
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31819 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:35 pm to
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The cartel will go after military, police, politician leaders families and maybe even hit American families that have family members involved in operations
that’s the possibility

They will certainly try — we live in interesting times…
Posted by LafourcheTiger
Avarua, Cook Islands
Member since Mar 2009
2287 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:39 pm to
The US military just finished fighting a 20 year war with insurgents from every corner of the earth. And the only reason why there is even a lizard alive and crawling around where the US military fought over the last 20 years is because of restraint and dumb arse rules of engagement.

If the US military goes in on the cartels with Trump in office and Hegseth in the pentagon there will be no holding back. The US will be in it to win and the cartels will have a force unleashed on it like never before in history.

See who is fricking laughing after that, bitch.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
36849 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:40 pm to
It would be a shame if that terrorist-sympathizing bitch got deported to live with the cartel she adores.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:41 pm to
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The Cartels have better military capabilities than you are giving them credit for. Also, they have only one rule they play by - WIN. Just win. They don’t care about optics. In fact, the harsher the optics the better for them.


We don’t have the political will to defeat the cartels in a heavy, boots on the ground type conflict. Hell, I don’t even know if we have the wherewithal to go after them in a limited capacity. When bodies start stacking people will fold.


These are good points. However, the cartels are vitally dependent on two things: freedom of maneuver within Mexico, and easy access to the US. If we put the military on the border, there is no longer access to the US. We don't have to put boots on the ground to disrupt and deny their freedom of maneuver within Mexico. If the cartels can't maneuver in Mexico and gain access to the US, they cannot exist.
Posted by Drew1964
Member since Nov 2024
265 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:42 pm to
Bring it
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17118 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:42 pm to
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The cartel will go after military, police, politician leaders families and maybe even hit American families that have family members involved in operations. It won't be a straight up fight.


Are we that friggin gone as a superpower that we are worried about Mexicans coming into this country and waging war? Cause that’s friggen war. The forefathers gave us the 2nd to include defense against dumbass decisions by Mexicans.

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Mexico will not tolerate collateral damage by the US if they are allowed to operate in Mexico.


They will quash their own citizenry in their country that would dare attack their neighbor or they will sit back and reap the whirlwind. They have two friggen choices. They should choose wisely.

We showed a group of well armed and battle hardened Russians in Syria what happens when they FO during the battle of Khasham. And the cartels are no Wagner group.

This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11532 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:52 pm to
Have you seen the pics of our military now? We have whole brigades full of LGBTQ+ soldiers. You think the Cartels couldn’t battle it out with them?
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
4266 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:53 pm to
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The cartels would be wiped from the planet in 24-48 hours at most without the US military suffering a single injury due to the cartels.

What a dumb bitch ?


How would we do that when many are mixed within the Mexican communities? We would have to kill many innocents as well to just bomb them all away like you are saying and you know that isn't going to happen.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 4:54 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
76350 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:57 pm to
Two words:

Daisy. Cutter.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
76350 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:59 pm to
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Have you seen the pics of our military now?

You honestly think the TV generals who paraded the handful of weirdos they could locate in uniform is representative of the entire US MIL?

You're dumber than I originally thought.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7081 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:00 pm to


A MOAB will burn the lungs out of someone a half a mile below ground.

People really have no idea how dangerous the U.S. Military is.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:00 pm to
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If we put the military on the border,

So we're just shutting down all travel/trade with Mexico over land?

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We don't have to put boots on the ground to disrupt and deny their freedom of maneuver within Mexico

How would we do this, exactly?

This is just like terrorism where there isn't a full member list to reference.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:01 pm to
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How would we do that when many are mixed within the Mexican communities? We would have to kill many innocents as well to just bomb them all away like you are saying and you know that isn't going to happen.


This is a big muh fight circle jerk, at this point.

Intelligence isn't a priority.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11532 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:02 pm to
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You're dumber than I originally thought.


Milley and Austin absolutely wrecked our military.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7081 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:02 pm to
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How would we do that when many are mixed within the Mexican communities? We would have to kill many innocents as well to just bomb them all away like you are saying and you know that isn't going to happen.


quote:

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Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
76350 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:05 pm to
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Milley and Austin absolutely wrecked our military.

On that point, we do not disagree.

They're also not the baws carrying the rifles or with their hands on the sticks.

You've seen how quickly the Trump Effect has impacted economics and social issues. If you don't believe SecDef Hegseth will right the ship with a quickness, then that's on you.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39991 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:10 pm to
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If the US military goes in on the cartels with Trump in office and Hegseth in the pentagon there will be no holding back.


Bull fricking shite

If you think the US armed forces are going to be allowed to operate with no holds barred, you are in for a serious disappointment. There was a poster on here talking about a Tomahawk cruise missile fired into Mexico.

We will go in there, kill a few low level foot soldiers, destroy some hardware/supplies, declare victory and come home without accomplishing much.

FFS, you have assholes on here caterwauling about Israel killing Palestinians in Gaza - a fight not even involving the US. You think every white woman in America won't lose their shite if some SF guy zips a little brown baby in Juarez?
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