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re: USS Harry S. Truman hits merchant vessel in Mediterranean Sea
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:54 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:54 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Ill ask the obvious.
How tf did this happen?
It should be impossible
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:56 am to damnstrongfan
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Did this happen under way at sea or in a port or harbor environment?
Based on the report of it being near Port Said, I am assuming this occurred near the entrance to the Suez Canal, and not in open water.
Still hard to fathom how two vessels of this size were allowed to get close enough to each other for this to happen.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:57 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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No the obvious question is whether the skipper will be relieved of command?
I think SOP is to do so pending the investigation.
Captain gets relieved because it was his ship and the ranking officer on duty at the time gets relieved because it happened on their watch.
Incidents like this are how the ROTC officer from my HS managed to be the commanding officer of TWO separate ships that ran aground, which I find hilarious because of his “captain crash” tendencies in any vehicle.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:59 am to HubbaBubba
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Why is the captain of an aircraft carrier getting that close to a ship that could be loaded with an explosive device. That Captain's career just nosedived real quick.
My other question is, why wasnt the vessel fired upon breaking the seal of protection I would generally assume an Aircraft Carrier reserves.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:00 pm to tide06
Do aircraft carriers dock or enter foreign ports?
I would expect they stay quite a distance offshore and ferry sailors and goods back and forth as needed.
That is how it was done when a carrier group came in to Korea when i was there.
I would expect they stay quite a distance offshore and ferry sailors and goods back and forth as needed.
That is how it was done when a carrier group came in to Korea when i was there.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:01 pm to dakarx
My assumption is that the navigator fricked up and had them cut across shipping lanes by accident.
IIRC, that was what happened in one of the last major incidents where a USN vessel hit a container ship.
IIRC, that was what happened in one of the last major incidents where a USN vessel hit a container ship.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:02 pm to HubbaBubba
Who owned the merchant ship?
Is someone trying to send a carrier to dry dock with a war in Gaza on the horizon.
Is someone trying to send a carrier to dry dock with a war in Gaza on the horizon.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:03 pm to HubbaBubba
So which ship has the DEI crew
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:03 pm to dakarx
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Do aircraft carriers dock or enter foreign ports?
I would expect they stay quite a distance offshore and ferry sailors and goods back and forth as needed.
That is how it was done when a carrier group came in to Korea when i was there.
I just mean if they are offshore near in a port or in a tight shipping channel they probably couldnt operate a proper screen.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:03 pm to HubbaBubba
Why did we not blow that ship out of the water before letting it get any where near close enough for an actual collision?
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:04 pm to HubbaBubba
I’ve been up close to the HST in port in a tiny boat. One of the more impressive things I’ve seen. I do not understand how a collision could take place even using 1950s radar.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:05 pm to Indefatigable
has to be entering or exiting the Suez. We pay Egypt handsomely to get priority for our carriers to get in and out ASAP. Sounds like a major frickup by the merchant vessel.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:05 pm to Scruffy
Our military mission readiness is at all time low.
Helicopters swatting down planes and our air craft carriers plowing into massive ships
Helicopters swatting down planes and our air craft carriers plowing into massive ships
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:07 pm to Rohan Gravy
Probably nothing, but I found it interesting that the cargo ship was flying a Panamanian flag.
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100,000-ton aircraft carrier collided with the 53,000-ton merchant vessel Besiktas-M, a Panamanian-flagged cargo ship.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:08 pm to rmnldr
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has to be entering or exiting the Suez.
According to fleet tracker, Truman was at Souda Bay earlier this week, so guessing it was headed back down through the Canal.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:09 pm to FreedomBarefoot
Panama is a pretty common flag of convenience for merchant vessels/registration.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:10 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Our military mission readiness is at all time low.
Helicopters swatting down planes and our air craft carriers plowing into massive ships
I don’t disagree but we have news at our fingertips 24/7 and we’re having frequency illusion as well. This stuff happens a lot and back in the day it didn’t make the news.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:11 pm to FreedomBarefoot
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I found it interesting that the cargo ship was flying a Panamanian flag
70% of the ships I see when flying are flying Panamanian flags, it’s extremely common
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:12 pm to teke184
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The captain may get fricked on this but the crew on the bridge may be responsible
The CO is 100% done. We lost prob the best CO i ever had. He was asleep when we collided with a Turkish merchant ship... was gone 2 days later.
It sucks but they know when they take command that everything is on them.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:13 pm to 50_Tiger
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My other question is, why wasnt the vessel fired upon breaking the seal of protection I would generally assume an Aircraft Carrier reserves.
This likely wasn't in open water, but in the highly congested shipping lanes around the Suez Canal entrance in Port Said. So there likely wasn't what we think of as a screen around the carrier. The deep water channels can be narrow.
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