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re: Vaccine mandate coming down the pipe at work
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:58 pm to Mattmac12
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:58 pm to Mattmac12
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Butttt they have forced us to wear masks which is not in the contract so I’m afraid why would this be differen
thats different, that was considered a new PPE item which is not part of a CBA.
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No matter I made a fake card because I knew this was coming “down the pipe” as soon as it rolled out
no matter, now the Drivers lisence app tells you if vaccinated or not and only way to fake that is to have a doctor enter it in. And HR will be requiring that at many places to be shown to prove status.
FTR i dont disagree that mandates are fricking stupid....just arguing from a principled position of personal property rights.
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:59 pm to JiminyCricket
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You feel there should be absolutely zero done regarding how a company treats its employees under any circumstance?
This is too broad of a brush, because contract rights and workplace safety regulations are a different conversation with different considerations. However, I believe that private employers should be able to set whatever conditions on hiring/employment that they choose.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:00 pm to Mattmac12
It’s laughable to worry about wuflu with an open border. Laughable I tell you
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:02 pm to Lima Whiskey
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but you are required to undergo weekly covid tests at your own expense,
This is what I've been wondering since I first heard of these weekly tests about 3 weeks ago from Diblasio and NYC city employees. I just don't see how a big employer can get away with making you burn your own leave time taking these weekly (or in some cases twice a week I heard) tests if you have a medical exemption for the vaxxes. That doesn't square up because some people will have an American Disabilities Act med waiver to the vaxxes.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:02 pm to lsu777
I don’t think there’s any kind of database though no chance. They’ll check your card and that’s it. I’m so against something like that though a show me your papers policy I’d quit anyway. Fake card would be for ballgames or places where they don’t give a shot
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:08 pm to Tomatocantender
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I just don't see how a big employer can get away with making you burn your own leave time taking these weekly (or in some cases twice a week I heard) tests if you have a medical exemption for the vaxxes
I would imagine that they will be doing the testing on-site/in the office, or they will require you to go get tested on your own time (weekends, unpaid leave) and provide the results.
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That doesn't square up because some people will have an American Disabilities Act med waiver to the vaxxes.
I don't see how this will impact the testing. You have the waiver enabling you to not get the vaccine. The waiver wouldn't cover testing.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:10 pm to Froman
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Weird hill to die on, literally.
It's the only hill left you cocksucking piece of shite.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:12 pm to Tider13
Correct. If the government can force you to take a vaccination they can kill you. And honestly if I was sure that this would be the end I might just take it. But it’s only the beginning
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:12 pm to Mattmac12
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I don’t think there’s any kind of database though no chance.
If you are in Louisiana, LDH absolutely has a database. Its how they maintain the Covid status on the LA Wallet app. I would say its a safe assumption that most if not all of the other states also keep records of who got the vaccine.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:14 pm to JiminyCricket
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i'm not getting an experimental, non FDA approved "vaccine".
You say that like you're going to change your tune when the FDA approves it next month.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:15 pm to BeepNode
If they do then they’ve lost any and all credibility. Makes no difference to me
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:16 pm to Indefatigable
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I don't see how this will impact the testing. You have the waiver enabling you to not get the vaccine. The waiver wouldn't cover testing.
Great point!
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:18 pm to Mattmac12
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If the government can force you to take a vaccination they can kill you.
The government has been "forcing" people to get certain vaccines for years.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:21 pm to Mickey Goldmill
That’s a false canard of the left well we’ve already taken most of your freedom so why not give us total control. To the extent that’s true I disagree with it. But as far as I know this is the first “vaccine” for a Chinese man made bio weapon that they cut corners to produce and coerce people to take. They have no liability because if they did they would be sued into next year
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:21 pm to Mattmac12
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If the government can force you to take a vaccination they can kill you.
Government schools and institutions have been mandating vaccines for quite some time.
ETA: But this thread is not about government mandated vaccination. Very different concept from private employer mandated vaccination.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:24 pm to Indefatigable
Well once again we’re not really talking about private decisions. The government already killed probably half the mom and pop businesses in the country last year and they won’t stop until they’ve gotten rid of all of them. If they can’t control you they don’t want you in business
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:25 pm to Mattmac12
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I don’t think there’s any kind of database though no chance. They’ll check your card and that’s it. I’m so against something like that though a show me your papers policy I’d quit anyway. Fake card would be for ballgames or places where they don’t give a shot
i didnt think so either, but my wife showed me LA wallet thing last night
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If you are in Louisiana, LDH absolutely has a database. Its how they maintain the Covid status on the LA Wallet app. I would say its a safe assumption that most if not all of the other states also keep records of who got the vaccine.
this. has a tab at bottom that says covid -19 that says if you are full vaccinated or not, effective date and the elapsed time.
more and more companies are going to want that instead of the card since so many faked the card.
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a show me your papers policy I’d quit anyway.
its not really though, your talking private company vs government. Big difference. and you better be ready to quit because its coming.
like i said earlier...I 100% support a companies right to set these terms of employment. I dont agree with the policy, but support their right to do so just like I support your right to tell them to suck your dick and not work their anymore.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:27 pm to lsu777
I could be wrong but they rolled out some app here in jersey that was billed as something you could download if you wanted to. As in you could choose to disclose your status but it’s not being forced
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:29 pm to lsu777
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Why the frick are you not supporting personal property rights and freedom of owners to make this decision one way or the other?
Oh, I do. However, I also support a business owner's right to refuse service for whatever reason they see fit, hire or fire for whatever reason they see fit, transact in whatever currency they see fit, etc, etc, etc, etc. Now, either we can let business owners OWN their business or we cannot. The reality of this is that you only support this position because you happen to agree with it......
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