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Posted on 11/24/21 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 5:10 pm to
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Saying fantasy over and over doesn't make you right.


No but the fact that your imaginary scenario isn't the reality of the situation makes me right.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 5:10 pm to
So I didn’t watch much of the trial except the closing arguments. An article I read just said all three men face life.

So the third guy can get life for just video taping the incident? The other one just sat in the truck. There was no intention of killing the guy.

If that’s the case, why is no one getting charged from that woman getting raped in Philly on the subway last month? Bunch of people recorded it but did nothing. Seemed they should all get charged with rape if this guy got convicted for murder.
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 5:12 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 5:13 pm to
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So the third guy can get life for just video taping the incident?



Jesus Christ, how many times do we have to go over this?

He was found guilty of false imprisonment for using his truck to chase down and then corner Arbery. Because Travis McMichael was found guilty of malice murder, the false imprisonment became cause for an elevated charge of felony murder for the two co-defefendants.

It had nothing to do with him videotaping the crime.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6535 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 5:17 pm to
He's been getting absolutely rocked in every related thread. It's really becoming impressive how faithfully devoted he is to his stupidity despite many people plainly explaining it in simple terms and gets upset if you point out his fantasy world for what it is.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35603 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 5:21 pm to
Yeah the fed does seem to be piling on, but they will probably say that "we need to do this because you never can tell, these baws might get their convictions overturned" thus they play it like a backup sentence in the event that happened. It's still overkill though, IMO.

As for the state sentences, the crimes for which they were convicted are actually the apex of all crimes. The felony murder is actually over and above malice murder in severity. Malice murder carries only life sentence penalty, while felony murder is the apex of all crimes. It's as bad as it gets, carrying possibility of the death penalty.

This next phase (sentencing) is possibly where the "political" aspect could really f*ck them right in the arse. There will be very loud calls to throw them away. Life without parole is actually a real possibility I believe.
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Blizzard bob
Trion
Member since Sep 2021
853 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 5:23 pm to
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All of these dumb fricks belong in jail.


Jesup’s finest…
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49334 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 5:29 pm to
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No. I watched a lot of the trial and understand the law. They did not seek out to murder him. They could and would’ve shot him the first 4 encounters. Amaud was never shot before he pulled on the shotgun to take it away

You think that they went after him with the intent to murder the guy that fit the description of robberies terrorizing the neighborhood and didn’t shoot him the first 3 times, but were thinking he would grab the gun to give them an excuse to kill him to get away with it???


You keep describing premeditation but that is not the standard under Georgia’s malice murder law - it is simply malice aforethought which can occur almost simultaneously when the act happens and is actually implied when an unprovoked murder occurs.

Pretty standard in most states.

Jury got it right.
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
5780 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 5:44 pm to
He didn’t…?
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13195 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 8:09 pm to
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He could have turned it all around to start selling pillows and saving our country from election fraud with lawsuits at the Supreme Court! This is America, anything is possible


True, I was taking a little offense at the red neck attack. WTH?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176406 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 8:38 pm to
What happens if Ahmaud is able to grab the gun away from the son?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 8:41 pm to
All three of those scumbags deserve the needle
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28160 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 8:42 pm to
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What happens if Ahmaud is able to grab the gun away from the son?


The libs and pro-trespass crowd on this board rejoice
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35603 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 8:48 pm to
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What happens if Ahmaud is able to grab the gun away from the son?

Of course this is just my opinion, not trying to force it on anybody, but that scenario should be one that supporters of self-defense should praise. Again, JMO.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6535 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 9:45 pm to
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What happens if Ahmaud is able to grab the gun away from the son?



then he has a chance at justified self defense vs his assailants. maybe he is able to de-escalate once he disarms the assailants, or he ends up having to sling a few shells to end the threat of the aggressors.
Posted by DookieWilliams
Member since Nov 2021
11 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:50 pm to
This may have been answered. Sorry if it's a repeat question.

Can somebody please explain how they were charged with four counts of murder when there was only one victim?

Thank you.
Posted by jacquespene8
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
4417 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 5:16 pm to
I believe “malice murder” was the only murder charge in and of itself. The other “felony murders” were death resulting from felony acts. And there were several different felony acts they were charged with, therefore the multiple “felony murders.” All carry life sentences in Georgia.

Only the trigger man was guilty of malice murder. The others were found guilty of felony murder.

Moral of the story, if your neighbors fly by on a truck and shout at you to come help to get a guy…don’t do it.
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