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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:57 am to
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:57 am to
No chance
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:57 am to
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Except she wasn’t following the law.



Neither was Congress.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68843 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:57 am to
Nah. She’s fricked around found out.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127470 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:57 am to
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He didn't know if she was unarmed or not.


Yeah. That’s not a defense either.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:58 am to
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Cops can’t shoot the first person who breaks through a barrier as a lesson to the rest.

Pretty sure they can if they are protecting a route to the VP/Congress.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49925 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:58 am to
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Deadly force for breaking inside? I don't know the answer

If somebody breaks into your home, you would know the answer and wouldn't think twice. Come on people, think.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33241 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:58 am to
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Obviously she wasn’t a threat and could’ve been handled without firing a shot


You don’t know that and the cops wouldn’t have in that moment. They certainly aren’t trained that way. She could have had a weapon or a vest on is the way they’re trained
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:58 am to
Anyone know her name? Say it!

No????

Wonder why.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
41977 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:58 am to
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Except she wasn’t following the law.



Neither was Congress.


I don’t recall any members of the House or Senate being killed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127470 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:58 am to
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Pretty sure they can if they are protecting a route to the VP/Congress.


No. They still can’t.
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
2885 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:59 am to
Well that makes it pretty obvious that the doorway there was where the buck stopped. The guy was standing there weapon drawn, anyone with a brain could see he wasn't fricking around. Also makes it pretty obvious that the police on the other side of the door weren't part of the same group that the shooter was.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140352 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:59 am to
This is a clear case of a murder that will be given a pass simply because of what side of the political aisle you are on.

Just like the election. Crime and fraud are allowed because of what side it occurred.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71664 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:59 am to
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That was a bad shoot.


Mannnnnn idk about that. It was really clear that they were not going to let anyone through that window. This isn't Seattle PD.

The time and place to put the clamps on our representatives was long ago in our own states, not in DC as they are counting the votes. It was too late, and what was going on right there was a serious security threat. I have a hard time arguing that capital PD was obligated to let those people through that window at that time.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127470 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:59 am to
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If somebody breaks into your home


She wasn’t breaking into someone’s home.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38196 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:00 am to
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They clearly drew a line in the sand and she was the first to cross it.

You don't dare a security person with a drawn weapon to shoot you. That's what she did. That raised firearm was in plain view to her. She decided to take the risk that he wouldn't shoot her.

If she was BLM, this board would be buying that shooter drinks for life.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:00 am to
I wouldn’t be surprised if the shooter was secret service.

That explains the difference in demeanor between the cops on the other side of the door and the agents behind the barricade.

This will be an unpopular opinion but I tend to agree with chromedrome.

Climbing through the window of a door with people on the other side pointing guns is clearly a “win stupid prizes” moment. A regular citizen carrying legally would have a punchers chance in court with this shoot because they have no idea what the intentions of the mob are on the other side.

Ignoring orders to stay away and actively climbing through, yeah you’re gonna get shot. Agents have no idea if you have a bomb, a hidden gun, or whatever. I doubt all those people went through a metal detector.

Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12888 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:00 am to
It’s really amazing how a clear and present danger can be mitigated with only one shot, no?

I mean when such an enormous threat to the country and our entire way of life can be stopped with a single bullet, we all should sleep a little better.

Obvious too, is the argument against any kind of magazine holding more than a single round. Because a battallion-strength invasion of the capitol by wretched, determined, and militarily-armed combatants who were within mere seconds and inches from snuffing out the lives of countless government officials was effectively thwarted by a single bullet.

So obviously justified...
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127470 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:00 am to
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It was really clear that they were not going to let anyone through that window. This isn't Seattle PD.


It wasn’t really clear at all. There were 10 policemen on the same side of the window as her. They clearly did not have the same understanding of that window that the shooter did. 5 of them walked away from the situation right before she was shot.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49925 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:00 am to
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If somebody breaks into your home


She wasn’t breaking into someone’s home.

In Louisiana and some other states, the law says that if you are lawfully in your home or another building, you can use deadly force to prevent someone else from entering that building unlawfully.


quote:


§20. Justifiable homicide
(4)(a) When committed by a person lawfully inside a dwelling, a place of business, or a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40) when the conflict began, against a person who is attempting to make an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, or who has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, and the person committing the homicide reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the entry or to compel the intruder to leave the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle.


I'm sure similar laws are elsewhere. Not sure about DC but we're talking about the United States Capitol building where the fricking vice president and literally every member of congress were at the time. People need to stop being fricking stupid here. This was very interesting to watch but this was just as wrong as the rioting in cities across the country that we've seen over the past few years.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 9:04 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70636 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:01 am to
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She wasn’t breaking into someone’s home.


Indeed. She was on public property, paid for and maintained by HER tax dollars.
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