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Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:02 am to
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41128 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:02 am to
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He is.


He’s been proven wrong multiple times on crime stats.

His only goal is to discredit Trump. Most of us here know his motive anytime he enters a thread.

Sadly, he thinks its still 2007 and he’s still one of the “smart ones” on the site.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471799 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:04 am to
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He’s been proven wrong multiple times on crime stats.



No. People just did the dumb "the data is fake" thing. If that's the angle you want to adjust to in this thread, then you should respond to OP in kind.

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Sadly, he thinks its still 2007 and he’s still one of the “smart ones” on the site.

Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19397 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:37 am to
SFP,

Ya left out the source of your data.......

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A D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district.

The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment opportunity complaint against an assistant chief and the police union accused the department of deliberately falsifying crime data, according to three law enforcement sources familiar with the complaint.

The union claims police supervisors in the department manipulate crime data to make it appear violent crime has fallen considerably compared to last year.


Posted by bignuss18
Member since Sep 2025
806 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:45 am to
And the emoji too. Emoji usage is typically an indicator of losing an argument and resorting to immaturity
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23088 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:19 pm to
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Sure, but that shouldn't limit the analysis solely to DC in 2026.


Per you:

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DC is the only area that can use this, as it's our only federal city. Federal impact on crime is low, generally, because it simply doesn't have the resources. DC, being our only federal city, is clearly different.


If you consider it an outlier, why is your expectation that it would follow other major cities?

Why not just accept the fact, and try to determine the driver of that fact, rather than introducing external information that clearly introduces more variables that can only be broadly examined?

If your house is on fire, but none of the other houses in the neighborhood are, would your conclusion be that fires must be rare, which agrees with national statistics, or would you try to find out what caused the fire at your house? You would be correct that fires are rare, but is that at all useful to you?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23088 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:21 pm to
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Ya left out the source of your data.......


I can see you salted the slug
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471799 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:41 pm to
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Ya left out the source of your data


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. If that's the angle you want to adjust to in this thread, then you should respond to OP in kind.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471799 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:46 pm to
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If you consider it an outlier, why is your expectation that it would follow other major cities?


It DOES follow the other major cities. That is, as they say, the point.

It's only an outlier in terms of the federal status. It's not an outlier in terms of results. That means the changes in federal action under Trump have led to minimal, if any, difference.

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Why not just accept the fact, and try to determine the driver of that fact,

Well what we know is the federal influence isn't the driver of the results.

Again, the point.

And as to the "why?", ss I said pretty clearly, we still don't know what caused the great decline from the mid-90s to about 2014, after 25+ years of studying it. We won't know the answer to this question for quite some time as well.

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If your house is on fire, but none of the other houses in the neighborhood are, would your conclusion be that fires must be rare, which agrees with national statistics, or would you try to find out what caused the fire at your house?

We are trying to do that. It will just take a long time. Trying to pretend that someone can know now is silly, as I made very clear.

But what we can do is eliminate some theories. In this example, federal influence in 2025 clearly should be eliminated as a potential cause.

Now we can focus on other potential factors.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:49 pm to
The savior complex is freaking amazing.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471799 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:51 pm to
Naw I didn't try to help/teach him understand how to make a coherent point. I just said his attempt was bad.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:53 pm to
I’ll have to look but my first inclination is that folks with a savior complex aren’t eager to admit it.

I love this stuff. eBahavior fascinates me.

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People with a savior complex often don't fully realize the extent or impact of their behavior because it stems from an unconscious need for validation, purpose, or control, making them feel it's just "being helpful," even when others don't want or need saving, leading to dependency, burnout, and overlooking their own needs. They may genuinely believe they know best, seeing others as projects rather than equals, and feel a compulsion to fix things, getting upset if their "help" isn't appreciated or effective.


Do you behave this way at a gathering?

I’m wondering if the anonymity of a message board frees the spirit.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Supr_65
Eunice. LA
Member since Feb 2013
139 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 1:35 pm to
I think the proven under reporting issues of violent crime by these large cities is the false reduction your pointing to.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23088 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 6:54 pm to
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Now we can focus on other potential factors.


The police chief said the federal resources have been helpful.
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