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re: Weed Vote Today
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:48 pm to xxTIMMYxx
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:48 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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Tolerance isn’t a good thing when talking about any substance
What's your definition of "substance"? Is caffeine a "substance"? Just wondering because these never-ending lines at the Dutch Bros and Starbucks on every corner out here remind me more of drug addicts lining up to get their fix than any trip that I've made to a dispensary...by a longshot.
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 2:51 pm
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:51 pm to DaleGribble
I don't use illegal drugs but the "war on drugs" has been such a failure.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:02 pm to Indefatigable
quote:is that confirmed?
the Senate isn’t going to take it up.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:05 pm to finchmeister08
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The legislation has bleak odds to become law. It now heads to the evenly-divided Senate and would need significant Republican support to receive the 60 votes necessary to pass.
They need 10 more regressives in the senate.
Make it 12-15 just to be sure.
Vote for them and they will do it.
You have to elect them to see what they will do.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:06 pm to finchmeister08
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is that confirmed?
No not officially. But leadership in the Senate hasn’t shown any interest on either side of the aisle. The House passed this same bill last year and the Senate let it die
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:16 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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I don’t know why people downvote this. I smoked for about 4 months once. I was completely worthless the whole time. When I wasn’t working anyway
I started smoking weed when I was 18. Five years later, I graduated from LSU with a Mechanical Engineering degree. Made school more fun to me.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:20 pm to Indefatigable
Big Pharma has a lot of power in the Senate. They will kill it.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:35 pm to lsu777
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i support gambling and legalized weed and i dont do either and wouldnt either way. hell i dont even drink that much but i still support it being legal.
Same. I loathe cigarette smoke but I hate the government trying to tell bars, restaurants and casinos that they have to ban smoking in their establishments even more.
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:36 pm to DaleGribble
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You've also repeatedly tried to lump them all into the same category and make it seem like anyone that is for legalizing weed but isn't okay with legalizing the other two is being a hypocrite.
No, I'm saying the argument many of them are using is hypocritical. Don't say something like "consenting adults should be allowed to do as they please with their own bodies" but then turn around and say you agree that meth shouldn't be legal.
If you want to argue that it's reasonable to draw the line after pot but before meth, especially given that we've decided that alcohol is ok, there's nothing hypocritical about that at all. But that doesn't allow folks to get on their high horse and pretend that anybody who disagrees with them can't possibly be a small government conservative.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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All drugs should be legal
That's a consistent position. In a perfect libertarian world I might even agree but that's not the world we live in. That's where pragmatism comes in for me, and I have to weigh the freedom against the damage it causes, especially when I'm one of the people expected to financially pick up the pieces when someone screws up their life, or worse yet their kid's life.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:42 pm to Bard
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I loathe cigarette smoke and I am glad the government tells bars, restaurants and casinos that they have to ban smoking in their establishments.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:45 pm to Bard
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Same. I loathe cigarette smoke but I hate the government trying to tell bars, restaurants and casinos that they have to ban smoking in their establishments even more.
I would agree if not for all of the people killed by second hand cigarette smoke.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Funny thing, if they hadn't cracked down so hard on cocaine, Meth wouldn't have made such an impact. When legal venues are closed, people find more dangerous ones.
Well said
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:26 pm to Flats
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No, I'm saying the argument many of them are using is hypocritical. Don't say something like "consenting adults should be allowed to do as they please with their own bodies" but then turn around and say you agree that meth shouldn't be legal. If you want to argue that it's reasonable to draw the line after pot but before meth, especially given that we've decided that alcohol is ok, there's nothing hypocritical about that at all. But that doesn't allow folks to get on their high horse and pretend that anybody who disagrees with them can't possibly be a small government conservative.
For the record, and I’m unsure if I’m the motivation of this post, but I am without question ideologically bound to the idea that the government should not have a say in the drug consumption habits of a willing and able human that isn’t infringing upon anyone else’s natural rights or trespassing on private property.
That does mean all of them.
I’m just willing to make a concession on the harder drugs like meth if it makes the legislation easier to swallow for people to get the drugs people actually want and have much less notable lasting effects (weed and mushrooms) without risking prison. That’s why I called it a pragmatic concession, but not one I’m necessarily happy with ideologically speaking.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:35 pm to BugAC
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I'm more curious about the overall health effects of long term marijuana use.
Especially the stronger versions we are seeing today. How it effects children similar to alcohol syndrome, etc.
I like many have plenty of productive friends that smoke, and have for different periods of time. Some since HS, some since college, some picked it up later. Its interesting to see the difference. The ones that go back to HS just aren't fully there like the later ones when talking to them when they haven't smoked. I'll be damned if they don't think they are, but their minds just don't spark right. Fun convos though.
Thanks for the link.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:43 pm to Dirtyboro
Is Potatus going to give each pothead a free commemorative bong?
You know the commemorative bong with Hunter Biden's likeness etched in the glass?
You know the commemorative bong with Hunter Biden's likeness etched in the glass?
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 5:13 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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something that will drive more people to stay home and not work, not be a productive member of society, or give a shite about anything.
Hunh?
Do you realize there are many strains of Marijuana?
Posted on 4/1/22 at 5:29 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
I wouldn’t mind if they legalized it, if the penalties for DUI would be made much more severe.
We have enough people driving impaired without making it easier for more.
We have enough people driving impaired without making it easier for more.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 6:06 pm to Bearcat90
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Federal government being involved will mean regulation.
No this would be mostly regulated by the states, like alcohol.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 6:24 pm to Ross
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That’s why I called it a pragmatic concession, but not one I’m necessarily happy with ideologically speaking.
How is that any different than a conservative, who would typically be against more government power, being pragmatic in believing that while he's not happy with it ideologically speaking, he thinks the potential negatives of legal weed outweigh the positives? He's making an internal compromise just like you are.
As another post said, this stuff frequently just isn't that simple. Not for libertarians, not for conservatives or anybody else. There are going to be gray areas where we know we have to draw a line but exactly where to draw it isn't crystal clear. I'm probably pretty close to you on weed, but "if they don't agree with me they're being arbitrary" and other digs aren't honest discussion.
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