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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:18 pm to
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The FBI seized thousands of hours of video from the various Epstein properties, those videos likely had hard proof of the crimes.


There is nothing to indicate those videos offered up crimes outside of the Epstein/Maxwell duo, though. That's the issue.



Why hell, that settles that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:21 pm to
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I think both are true: It was always impossible for government - you can't just dump the raw material for a guy who pimped out 16 year olds for many reasons. And even if you could, we're such a scandal-fatigued society that some material further implicating Bill Richardson having sex with an Epstein girl is not going to satisfy people. As you said, the legend had grown so huge.


There is also the problems you see in that 2008 prosecution out of Florida. This was LONG before #metoo and it was also a time before the redefining of what "sex trafficking" meant. Bill Richardson, to use your example, having sex with a 16 or 17 year old who was paid and did so voluntarily, wouldn't have moved the needle nearly as much back then. That prosecution fell apart because some of the girls even testified at the GJ that they didn't think he did anything wrong.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:23 pm to
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Why hell, that settles that.


The thread title

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What irrefutable proof is there the Epstein Sex Trafficking scandal is a big deal?


Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:30 pm to
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who was good at math


He wasn’t. He taught low level math at a private school and was described by many who met him as an unimpressive moron.
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:32 pm to
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I think Bondi singlehandedly destroyed DC Draino's social media presence. Haven't heard a peep from DC Draino since this famous photo op....


I'm not one to defend a moron like Bondi or Draino, but if he was stupid enough to do that photoshoot then he probably deserved what was coming.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:38 pm to
The fact that the files of a sex trafficking ring are/were considered an issue of national security and so much of the files have been redacted to protect those who are in the files should piss everyone off.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:41 pm to
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What irrefutable proof is there the Epstein Sex trafficking scandal is a big deal?


What is missing for me is the plaintiffs accusing anyone. I hear nebulous comments on the vast number of victims but no specifics are alleged. The problem here is that you can have an adult and a minor involved in illegal acts but it is hard to prove if they are not cooperating or even known
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:46 pm to
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I think Bondi singlehandedly destroyed DC Draino's social media presence. Haven't heard a peep from DC Draino since this famous photo op....


I'm not one to defend a moron like Bondi or Draino, but if he was stupid enough to do that photoshoot then he probably deserved what was coming.


I honestly think DC Draino and Jack Posobeic trusted Bondi had some new documnets.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55193 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:49 pm to
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The big deal is that there's two classes for justice in this country. If you and I pulled the same shite Epstein did, with the evidence I've seen, you and I would both be in jail for the rest of our lives. The difference is our political class gets to play by a different set of laws and justice. Ought to piss everybody off.


This ^^^ is why many of us have said for years Epstein was tied in with some very powerful political and corporate elites.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:49 pm to
Epstein and Maxwell were arrested for their crimes.



That is way more than we can say for the Catholics.






Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:51 pm to
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This ^^^ is why many of us have said for years Epstein was tied in with some very powerful political and corporate elites.


Yes, but im going to need proof of them fricking underage children.


Not 17-year-old Russian prostitutes, but prepubescent children and drinking their blood.


That's where the conspiracy nuts are wrong.



Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:58 pm to
I have read several times that there is a super 8 movie reel of Marilyn Monroe giving jfk a blow job. It was in the possession of some mafia Don. True or not I don't know. The epstein tapes are the same. A great source for blackmail to whoever possesses them. If epstein was an Intel operation, then it is mossad and cia who have the good stuff.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55193 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:00 pm to
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This ^^^ is why many of us have said for years Epstein was tied in with some very powerful political and corporate elites.


Yes, but im going to need proof of them fricking underage children.


Not 17-year-old Russian prostitutes, but prepubescent children and drinking their blood.


That's where the conspiracy nuts are wrong.




That's why I said in the OP I've mostly moved on. The cleanup crew has had 15-20 years to sanitize the incriminating evidence.

THE DOJ HAS 2 MILLION FRICKING FILES THEY'VE YET TO RELEASE.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:03 pm to
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Epstein could have easily been a shady guy who was good at math with no morals who was a money launderer that gave him access to all sorts of intel operations and he also became an information broker....who was a predator of young women but who didn't necessarily share them as much as was believed.


VDH believes Epstein attempted to blackmail elites simply for monetary gain, and not as some sort of high level cia or mossad op.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:06 pm to
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What irrefutable proof is there the Epstein Sex Trafficking scandal is a big deal?
We might know the answer to that if the Judicial Branch would release related information. But with its refusal, we don't know.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22509 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:24 pm to
The sex trafficking deal isn't the real issue. It's a side show, so to speak.
Epstein was a high end money guy for off the books Intelligence Service endeavors and any other illegal money finance schemes.
Geez, he was nuts deep in the Iran/Contra debacle!!!! He owned Air America!
Most folks are so ignorant and so sucked up into the "latest " they can't see past theor own asses.

Think I'm wrong??? Try posting a informative video longer than 3 minutes and watch what happens....
Lazy fricks start yapping about it, demanding you provide highlights!!! Lol

These same people vote!!! No wonder our congressional representation is shite!
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
2956 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:23 pm to
Libs aren’t talking about it.

That’s the proof.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12198 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:18 pm to
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If a list ever existed, it was destroyed a long time ago.


I'm going to amend that to say, "If there ever was credible evidence, it was destroyed a long time ago."

A "list" doesn't prove anything. Hell, I can make a list.

But that aside, this is the correct answer.
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