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re: Who here is a Democrat
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:48 am to Jax Teller
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:48 am to Jax Teller
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Republicans are not the solution, but Democrats are definitely the cause.
This is so true. In fact, I read something that was said over a hundred years ago by a British Politician. From memory it was something like: The whole world is sorting itself into two camps, liberals and conservatives. It is the job of the liberals to go around screwing up everything, and it is the job of the conservatives that once something is screwed up to prevent it ever being put right again.
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:48 am to wackatimesthree
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For example, infrastructure needs obviously increase, does that mean we need more federal building/materials/environmental regulations?
Absolutely not; the post I responded to just said "government", I think.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:50 am to Robin Masters
quote:My point was that if there are few enough people no stop signs are necessary.
I live in a private community of over 1000 homes and we didn’t need the government to put up even 1 stop sign.
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What is it about a stop sign that requires a government?
Well, I guess anyone can put them up, but who would pay for them and who would enforce them? That's a government.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:52 am to Penrod
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So if North America was populated by only 100 people what is your intuitive guess as to the number of stop signs they would need?
Why not stick with reality. What's your guess on the two scenarios that I can point you to on a map?
Wouldn't a 10,000 square mile county with a population of 10,000 have more stop signs than a city of 100,000 people laid out over 10 square miles? It's okay to answer yes/no.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:58 am to Penrod
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My point was that if there are few enough people no stop signs are necessary.
You are conflating “government” with “order”. They are not the same thing
And for the record the number of stop signs you have is determined by the number of intersections you have, not the number of people.
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Well, I guess anyone can put them up, but who would pay for them and who would enforce them? That's a government.
We have an HOA. No one enforces them. We are all civilized people that behave as such. Fear of social shame and scorn is far more compelling than a ticket. At least in my hood.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:58 am to trussthetruzz
quote:I've yet to meet a democrat who can tell me what Trump did that was so wrong and made them hate him so much.
Anyone but Trump
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:58 am to oogabooga68
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So you think a WIDE OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER inviting MILLIONS OF PEOPLE to illegally enter, then giving them all welfare whilst pushing to give them voting rights isn't promoting the destruction of the country?
I think we need massive immigration in the absence of American procreation, which I regret. I am of course against illegal immigration because it is illegal. I would like to see a wall with large ports to facilitate legal ebbs and flows of massive populations along our southern border,
I'd like to see each entry and exit legal and documented. The vast majority would be on work permits. They would earn citizenship through a long period of responsible work and legal respectful living.
I'd also like to see our immigration set up like a P5 college football team's recruiting. We should be scouring the world for the best, brightest and hardest working, not letting in whomever dares the border.
What in the world gave you the idea that I wanted a wide-open border? Or that Matthew Yglesias wants one? You see, this is just what I mean about living in an echo chamber. You really believe that nonsense. It's no wonder you are so damn angry.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:00 am to Robin Masters
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They are actively facilitating an invasion of illegal aliens to the detriment of American citizens.
True. I oppose it, too. But I point out that that is just what was said when we let in all those Irish and all those Sicilians. I am on your side of the debate, but the debate is not between good and evil.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:00 am to Flats
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No, they don't. They can get by on wells and septic. An apartment complex cannot do that.
You made me look this shite up
As population density increases, infrastructure costs go down - capex and opex.
Relationship between population density and infrastructure costs
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:01 am to Penrod
quote:HogWash. If you want to cosplay, that's fine. However, I don't have to play your silly game.
However, he feels like etiquette demands that if dudes want to be called women we should do it
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:04 am to Penrod
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What in the world gave you the idea that I wanted a wide-open border? Or that Matthew Yglesias wants one? You see, this is just what I mean about living in an echo chamber. You really believe that nonsense. It's no wonder you are so damn angry.
You have reading comprehension issues.
Yglesias posted that Biden was doing a good job.
I responded Biden was trying to destroy America and gave proof, that is the wide open border.
I did not explicitly say that either of you supported an open border.
It is however quite clear that you DO, despite what you say.
You are white-knighting hard for the Biden Administration whether you admit or not.
The Biden Administration has opened the border and terrorists and murderers are skipping into America.
Your gdamned right I'm angry.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:05 am to David_DJS
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infrastructure costs go down
Sure, that's a scale issue, but you're also assuming identical services. I'm saying that as density goes down you don't have the same infrastructure. Why do think people who live in very rural areas are typically more self sufficient than an apartment dweller in Manhattan? If everything the government does magically stops where would you rather be?
I'm not saying people who live in high density areas are bad, I'm just saying that logistics demands more collective solutions as density increases. That's so obvious to me, and something I've observed anecdotally, that I'm surprised this discussion is even happening.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:05 am to Penrod
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It's a fact, not just an opinion.
Again, I will ask you what I asked the other poster beating this already dead horse.
Increased population density obviously means need for infrastructure increases. Does it also mean we need more federal building/materials/environmental regulations?
I would say no. And I'll bet a lot of people would agree with me.
So again, and I don't know how to say this any more clearly...IT. DEPENDS. ON. WHAT. YOU. MEAN. BY. THAT.
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The idea that a woman can't control her own body is almost as repugnant to me as the idea that an infant in the womb can be killed - ALMOST.
I would say that it is equally repugnant than a woman can't control her own body. That's called rape in this context, and I would put those two actions at an equal point on a scale of evil.
Now, a woman who voluntarily engages in sexual intercourse—knowing full well that that sexual activity can result in the creation of another human being, even if contraceptives are used—who decides she would rather kill that human being than fulfill her obligation to it is a different story.
You create a human being by your own voluntary actions and it is incumbent upon you to allow it to live. That should be recognized as part of the basic social contract for human beings IMO. Yes, that requires a woman to refrain from doing certain things with her body. Just like any social contract requires people from refraining from doing certain things with their bodies. A man isn't allowed to use his body to rape another human being because of the social contract we have about not harming others...why shouldn't it also be part of the social contract that children are similarly protected by that social contract?
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I think they are just as misled as you. Both of you call about half the people in America evil.
LOL. You're one pompous arse, aren't you?
My response to that is that I only called half of the population evil. Using your logic, you just called the entire population evil ("repugnant" is the exact word you used, but I assume we can equivocate them without disagreement), no matter which side they are on.
So who is the more "misled?" A.K.A. "repugnant?"
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 10:17 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:06 am to Penrod
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But I point out that that is just what was said when we let in all those Irish and all those Sicilians. I am on your side of the debate, but the debate is not between good and evil.
You are a gdmaned fool.
There is ZERO similarity between the INVASION of today and the immigrants of 100 years ago.
And yes, the Democrats are EVIL and are encouraging a wholesale re-imagining of this country.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:06 am to David_DJS
quote:You put a bunch of cattle in a feed lot and "infrastructure costs go down". However, quality of life for the cows goes down as well.
as population density increases, infrastructure costs go down - capex and opex.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:06 am to Raz
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Please understand that they want to burn this whole country down and half the population with it if they can’t stay in power.
The vast majority of Dim/Groomer voters have no grasp or understanding of how destructive their desires to fundamentally transform America truly are.
A lot of Dims are one issue voters for one of the following, abortion, union solidarity with the Dim party, social justice, DEI, LGBTQ.....XYZ, etc. Many Dims may not necessarily agree with the other factions within the Dim party but they will vote straight ticket Dim if it means their interests are met regardless how the rest of the Dim agenda negatively affects the country.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:11 am to oogabooga68
quote:How did the whole "open border" thing work out for the native Americans?
There is ZERO similarity between the INVASION of today and the immigrants of 100 years ago.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:11 am to Flats
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bsolutely not; the post I responded to just said "government", I think.
The first one did.
The second one clearly did not. Nor did the third.
It seems that you are determined to keep arguing about this no matter what I post or how much I clarify the original post.
That's fine.
But as I believe I have observed you saying many times before, you don't need me for that sort of discussion. You can have it yourself.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:12 am to RollTide71
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HogWash. If you want to cosplay, that's fine. However, I don't have to play your silly game.
It's much, much more than a silly game.
It's about FORCING decent people to abandon their morals and beliefs in the name of getting along.
It is nefarious to the core.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:13 am to Penrod
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I'll post this for the third time...if North America was populated by only 100 people would they need stop signs?
If the population density in a given area increases 30%, do we need more traffic laws?
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