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Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:20 pm to
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It's collected data that is coalated into a opinion


Yet it is collected data.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:20 pm to
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Exactly, you won’t read because you’re scared of the truth.




So you're flinging shite and getting angry when you get called on it..

But you think I'm afraid of "truth"
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:20 pm to
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I own two shotguns: one gauge for dove and one for quail. I own two rifles, for different game. I own two handguns: one for the house and one for the truck.

This study is about the guys who own two gun-safes full of weapons. That sort of obsessive-compulsive hoarding is interesting and worthy of study.


Perhaps. I'm more interested in whether it's actually leading to something harmful.

I don't have a stockpile of guns. The notion of people having some doesn't generally scare me, but I'm wondering if it should.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62916 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:20 pm to
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The only guy I know who stockpiles is a black dude from Alabama who lives here now, and he's just a straight gun fiend. He's got a Barrett 50 cal and we go shoot tannerite.
I would say we know the same dude, but my dude is in TX.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56608 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:21 pm to
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i mean, is this any less odd than people keeping food reserves for potential emergencies?



A truly paranoid person *ahem* realizes that food production is orders of magnitude more important than the capability to enact violence, especially since someone can murder you for one crop (maybe!) but won't be able to produce more the following season.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Yet it is collected data.


Sociology differs from real science in that the findings are not empirical, they are in fact opinion.

Raw data by itself doesn't prove anything.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:21 pm to
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I found it interesting, I wanted to discuss it. Did I know it would piss some like Bengal off? Sure, but those are the fools that don’t deserve to be considered anyhow. I want to have the conversation with people at least willing to read the study and objectively say there is probably something there, because there is.
Just curious. Is he really as ... strange ... as he seems, or is it a trolling act?

The study DOES seem interesting, based upon the limited info you posted. In a bit, I plan to look at the actual study, rather than the media accounts of the study.

The truly interesting thing about the reaction, to me, is the huge jumps in logic about what the study "says" and the defensiveness of the reactions.
Posted by volnavy
Fair wind and following seas
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:22 pm to
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Yet it is collected data


Incomplete data which leads to erroneous conclusions. Especially when a specific agenda is being put in use.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
82784 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:22 pm to
I used to work at a gun shop during the summers. There are the whackadoo preppers out there.

But you are talking about an extremely small percentage of gun owners. Usually those who have more than 3 guns factor into 2 groups: Collectors, Hunters, or Shooting Enthusiasts.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:22 pm to
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It appears there are pros and cons to that argument. You were deriding him for that position, so I Googled it. Your derision had me thinking it was universally discredited.

Turns out there are loads of studies showing both.

Video games and FPS video games have been around for a very long time as far as this discussion is concerned

The frequency and recency of these shootings can not be explained away by video games
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:22 pm to
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I plan to look at the actual study, rather than the media accounts of the study.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62916 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Video games and FPS video games have been around for a very long time
good grief.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25462 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Yes you know a few so it's rampant.


And apparently you know none so it’s non-existent.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Collectors, Hunters, or Shooting Enthusiasts.


Most I know fit in these categories.

Has anyone given a scientific explanation of what "stockpiling guns" means?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38026 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:25 pm to
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This study is about the guys who own two gun-safes full of weapons. That sort of obsessive-compulsive hoarding is interesting and worthy of study.


Hi.

I like guns. I have a bunch of land. I like to shoot guns on my land. Why? Because it’s fun. And because it’s my land.

Am I scared of some end of the world? Nope.
Economic collapse? Nope.
The commies? Nope
The govt? Nope.


I just like to shoot guns so I buy guns and I shoot them.

Why is that a bad thing?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31252 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:26 pm to
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The only guy I know who stockpiles is a black dude from Alabama who lives here now, and he's just a straight gun fiend. He's got a Barrett 50 cal and we go shoot tannerite.


Is his name Al?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:26 pm to
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And apparently you know none so it’s non-existent.


I would say very few people in the country are preppers.

What would you estimate, and how many firearms is "stockpiling guns?"
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
9146 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Exactly, you won’t read because you’re scared of the truth.


That tactic of calling people who disagree with you “scared” (i.e. homophobic, islamaphobic, etc) doesn’t actually stick you know. Nobody believes someone who defends traditional marriage is actually scared of gay people.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 2:33 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56608 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Is his name Al?



I'm not black!
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