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Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:21 pm to TT9
Because Russia and China would crush them, their families, their towns, everything. shite, the Russians gassed their own people to get the Chechens.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:25 pm to Navytiger74
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long-term greater good
Israel and our good.
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Principle
What principle? The principles that benefit us?
You can not take the principles that many Americans and christian live by and compare them to the US military and their goals. They don't mix. It takes a hefty suspension of disbelief by the average American to accept it.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:27 pm to Porky
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I think we may be starting to make some progress with this.
Here's the thing, though. A few months ago, Obama was speacherizing when he made this comment:
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"Here's my bottom line: America must always lead on the world stage. If we don't, no one else will."
My jaw hit the floor because there will always be someone that wants to take the world stage. If not made out of dangerous naivete, I don't know exactly what he meant by that.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:29 pm to LakeViewLSU
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Israel and our good.
Dude, save it. I'm not an "Israel-firster" by this board's standards. I strongly believe in the right of the Jewish State to exist peacefully, but their government can lick my balls.
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You can not take the principles that many Americans and christian live by and compare them to the US military and their goals. They don't mix. It takes a lot of suspension of disbelief by the average American to accept it.
No, we really believe that generally freer markets and the diffusion of political power within a system will produce the best results for a people, a region, the world, and (therefore) us. I buy it. And I'm a pretty unromantic person. We just suck at executing a coherent foreign policy.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:32 pm to udtiger
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Because Russia and China would crush them, their families, their towns, everything. shite, the Russians gassed their own people to get the Chechens.
Yeah, if Russia and China had staged 250,000 troops in Iraq and worthless fricking Afghanistan over the past 11 years, the shite would be totally copasetic by now.
This is a fine time for one of those "if you don't know WTF is going on, you shouldn't be able to vote" threads that you guys love so much.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:35 pm to Navytiger74
All I'm saying is that we WILL NOT make a move unless it is in OUR or Israel's best interest. Im sorry that I have to keep mentioning Israel, but we are the same country. There is no separation politically so it would be stupid not to mention them.
And we would not be interested in helping any kind of market that did not include us or Israel in some way.
And we would not be interested in helping any kind of market that did not include us or Israel in some way.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:37 pm to LSUgusto
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"Here's my bottom line: America must always lead on the world stage. If we don't, no one else will."
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My jaw hit the floor because there will always be someone that wants to take the world stage. If not made out of dangerous naivete, I don't know exactly what he meant by that.
Who knows what BO's ever thinking? But I do believe that any foreign country that decides to take "the lead" in the Middle East has a good chance of eventually asking themselves the question, "wtf were we thinking?".
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:38 pm to LakeViewLSU
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Im sorry that I have to keep mentioning Israel, but we are the same country. There is no separation politically so it would be stupid not to mention them.
We
fricking
Get
It
Already.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:38 pm to LakeViewLSU
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Im sorry that I have to keep mentioning Israel, but we are the same country.
Well I see we've identified the problem. Israel almost never does what we ask when we ask. And though they have enormous influence in our foreign policy, if we were "one," we would have been bombing Bushehr, Tehran, and Damascus while I was still at NAVCENT.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:40 pm to Navytiger74
quote:Miss Bahrain yet?
if we were "one," we would have been bombing Bushehr, Tehran, and Damascus while I was still at NAVCENT.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:43 pm to Jbird
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Miss Bahrain yet?
fricking never. I spent almost $5K getting my car back in good order just from driving over there for two years. Have to take it back in to the dealership tomorrow to check out a leak in the AC. A fricking 7.5 year old car, mind you. But I love it.
I don't miss the 60 hr weeks (10% terror, 60% boredom, 30% bullshite) or the heat either. DC feels cool at 90 degrees.
I miss the Russian broads, though.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:47 pm to Navytiger74
quote:I get to go fly my arse off again in a few months, I truly have come to detest that part of the world.
I don't miss the 60 hr weeks (10% terror, 60% boredom, 30% bullshite) or the heat either. DC feels cool at 90 degrees.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:48 pm to LakeViewLSU
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Israel dumbass. Its amazing how many people don't know the root of the problem.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:49 pm to TT9
Exactly. They don't hate us because of our way of life, style of govt, economy, etc, etc. they hate us because we bomb the shite out of them every chance we get.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:06 pm to TT9
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TT9
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Alabama Fan
It is all about the scheduling.
Terrorist league headquarters is in Birmingham or something.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:17 pm to TT9
quote:For once, we are on the same page.
With Russia or China. Maybe we should do what they do and not give a frick.
We should have learned after Russia fricked themselves in Afghanistan.
Stay out of that shithole that is the ME. It's a waste of time and money.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:20 pm to TT9
Fwiw, ISIS said that they were coming after America and Russia in the Vice videos. ISIS hates everyone.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:27 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
Then Russia should be bombing them with us.
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