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re: Why would the idiots of this State vote against Amendment 3?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:08 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:08 am to imjustafatkid
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They're asking voters to let it work like it does in every state: via the legislative process.
When kids commit crimes in other states, the legislature charges them? How does that work?
Maybe other states trust their legislators more than we do.
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:12 am to TigerGman
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“Instead of putting programs and services and focus on taking people from poverty, we want to lock the kids up for life," Hurst said. "What I see is that, we're so scared of young black kids that we would rather lock them up than deal with them. That's what this says to me."
You know what this says to me, Hurst (whoever you are)? It says you think only black kids commit crimes. So your attempt at painting others as racist kind of backfired, didn't it?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:49 am to Metaloctopus
Are you not aware of the demographics of juvenile detention centers in Louisiana?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:51 am to tigerinthebueche
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See in order for us to expand the list, we first have to remove the list. And they wonder why voters were skeptical?
No. It's then called the legislative process, just like most everything else.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:03 am to 4cubbies
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Are you not aware of the demographics of juvenile detention centers in Louisiana?
Are you aware of the percentage of crimes committed by black people? They aren't locked up because they're black, they're in there because of their crimes, just like everyone else. Do you know how many of those kids grow up in fatherless homes? You go fix the demolition that has occurred to black families through liberal policies that encouraged single motherhood by offering more money through welfare than they could get by having a working husband, then come back and ask me about demographics.
I think we're all aware of the demographics, but some of you are blind as to why those numbers exist, blaming it on racism instead. That doesn't change the fact that there are white kids in juvy, and this proposed amendment would have applied equally to them. But this guy only mentions black kids, as if they are the only ones in the system, which makes him a hypocrite for crying racism.
Maybe he should consider doing something to help clean up the crimes in his neighborhood, rather than being angry with the system.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 4:06 am
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:20 am to sta4ever
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Because we don’t need anymore amendments added to this state.
This amendment was actually removing something from the constitution not adding to it.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:53 am to CubsFanBudMan
We need to fix the law that allowed that scumbag that brutally killed and mutilated the body of that young girl in mowata to get out of serving his life sentence.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:00 am to TigerGman
It would have passed had it not been on the ballot with 2
Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:15 am to Metaloctopus
quote:I’m aware of the number of crimes black people are convicted of. I’m also aware of all the ways in which it seems to make more sense for a poor person to plead out to get out of jail rather than wait at least 5+ months in jail for a trial. I’ve worked within the system for years. People are railroaded into felony convictions all the time. Kids with black skin are rarely shown any leniency and you either live under a rock or are straight up dishonest if you deny that. White kids get away with things black kids get in trouble for all the time. Same goes for adults.
Are you aware of the percentage of crimes committed by black people?
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That doesn't change the fact that there are white kids in juvy, and this proposed amendment would have applied equally to them.
I’m shocked at the trust and blind faith you have in our corrupt and backwards government. Do you believe everything the state says or just when it disparages black people? The mental gymnastics one has to do to convince themselves that it’s by pure coincidence that the same demographic that has been systemically discriminated against and brutalized for hundreds of years just so happens to commit most petty crimes…
There’s absolutely no way that the same government that enslaved, disenfranchised, segregated, and discriminated against them for centuries would possibly treat them unfairly today. Our benevolent government would never do such a thing.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:52 am to TigerGman
Op doesn't even know what the amendment does; or what our current laws are.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:04 am to sta4ever
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Because we don’t need anymore amendments added to this state.
So stay the same course?
See, the problem here is the voters.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:04 am to crewdepoo
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Op doesn't even know what the amendment does; or what our current laws are.
B.S., they wouldn't have needed a constitutional amendment if they weren't trying to lower the age for many acts... Right?
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A "yes" vote supported allowing the state legislature to determine in state law which specific felony crimes can result in a juvenile being tried as an adult.
You probably never even read it and voted NO anyway. Here, please demonstrate your reading comprehension skills...
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§19. Special Juvenile Procedures
Section 19. The determination of guilt or innocence, the detention, and the custody of a person who is alleged to have committed a crime prior to his seventeenth birthday shall be pursuant to special juvenile procedures which shall be provided by law. However, the legislature may (1) by a two-thirds vote of the elected members of each house provide that special juvenile procedures shall not apply to juveniles arrested for having committed first or second degree murder, manslaughter, aggravated rape, armed robbery, aggravated burglary, aggravated kidnapping, attempted first degree murder, attempted second degree murder, forcible rape, simple rape, second degree kidnapping, a second or subsequent aggravated battery, a second or subsequent aggravated burglary, a second or subsequent offense of burglary of an inhabited dwelling, or a second or subsequent felony-grade violation of Part X or X-B of Chapter 4 of Title 40 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, involving the manufacture, distribution, or possession with intent to distribute controlled dangerous substances certain felony offenses provided by law, and (2) by two-thirds vote of the elected members of each house lower the maximum ages of persons to whom juvenile procedures shall apply, and (3) by two-thirds vote of the elected members of each house establish a procedure by which the court of original jurisdiction may waive special juvenile procedures in order that adult procedures shall apply in individual cases. The legislature, by a majority of the elected members of each house, shall make special provisions for detention and custody of juveniles who are subject to the jurisdiction of the district court pending determination of guilt or innocence.[6]
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:06 am to TigerGman
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“Instead of putting programs and services and focus on taking people from poverty, we want to lock the kids up for life," Hurst said. "What I see is that, we're so scared of young black kids that we would rather lock them up than deal with them. That's what this says to me."
Instead the black 15 year old will have 20 black victims by the time they are 18 and have spit out a few bastard kids.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:08 am to 4cubbies
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Kids with black skin are rarely shown any leniency and you either live under a rock or are straight up dishonest if you deny that.
lol, this is a lie.
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15-year-old arrested after carjacking 76-year-old has history of the crime
15 year old with multi carjacking charges.
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This week, Baltimore Police announced the arrest of an 11-year-old in connection with a BB gun shooting at a gas station last month. Baltimore Police said the juvenile was arrested and released on an ankle monitor, but just 48 hours later, was back out on the streets and accused in another BB gun shooting.
Also this week, Baltimore Police announced the arrest of two, 13-year-old suspects for auto theft. But the juveniles were reportedly released just hours later.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 7:12 am
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:26 am to spslayto
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Why not just tell us what crimes they want to add to the list instead of giving our legislature unbridled power?
You do understand that in order for something to get added to the list, it would need to be approved by the legislature and the governor?
These things should be in the revised statutes, not the constitution
Everyone says the constitution is too overbearing, yet attempts to clean it up get shot down.
Elect better people to office if you don’t trust them
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:27 am to 4cubbies
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Your position is that if someone doesn’t want the government to have more power, they must allow strangers to live with them? And how does that make sense in your brain?
Liberals don’t want expansion of government power? I don’t believe you
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:30 am to 4cubbies
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When kids commit crimes in other states, the legislature charges them? How does that work? Maybe other states trust their legislators more than we do.
No. The list of crimes that can be tried as an adult is in statute, not constitution, and is updated via the legislative process
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:31 am to Metaloctopus
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Are you aware of the percentage of crimes committed by black people?
It’s not middle of white America’s culture to cruise around at 15 with stolen handguns car jacking people.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 7:32 am
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:32 am to TigerGman
I need to know more. It says there's already a list of crimes that you can be charged as an adult for. So what is the supposed benefit of this new Amendment? Are there crimes not currently on the list that we wish were? If so what are they
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:43 am to 4cubbies
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When kids commit crimes in other states, the legislature charges them? How does that work?
Maybe other states trust their legislators more than we do.
Louisiana voters are so stupid, they ask questions like this because they can't even comprehend how bad their laws are.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 7:44 am
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