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re: Wind and solar in Texas
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:15 pm to Average_Comments
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:15 pm to Average_Comments
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About 42% of the power being generated in Texas today is wind and solar.
that's mostly false, i'm pretty sure. most estimates are about 30% that i've seen. i also believe that is mainly just in summer months. during peak sun and wind times in west and south Texas. it's a worthless metric for most of November-March.
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I just want clean air and water to hunt, fish, and enjoy my back porch.
solar and wind are only going up in remote areas making less and less hunting and fishing available. Solar will make the ground unusable for decades.
i'm not opposed to them, but you are making land unusable for decades everytime another solar field or wind turbine goes up.
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:22 pm to 3nOut
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i'm not opposed to them, but you are making land unusable for decades everytime another solar field or wind turbine goes up.
Utility scale solar, yes. But wind coexists just fine. We still ranch in the middle of one of the largest wind farms in west texas. The cows actually line up in the shadow of the turbines in the summer to get out of the sun.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:22 pm to billjamin
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Fair point i missed that.
This actually harkens back to one of the most clarifying things I learned in my MBA Econ classes: The analytical decision to continue a venture is ONLY a function of marginal revenue and marginal cost. What happened before and averages are a non-factor.
It’s a concept that applies to a lot more than just financial analyses.
Freakonomics and all that.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:25 pm to Powerman
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It helped stabilize the grid. There are some people that feel threatened by renewables
my balance sheet and the country's is threatened by it because they are all economic disasters. 
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:25 pm to Average_Comments
Nothing wrong with solar in states where it makes sense. Texas has strong sun and lots of land. Might not make as much sense in Maine or Washington State.
Texas also is one of the better states for wind, so wind farms in certain areas make sense.
Texas also is one of the better states for wind, so wind farms in certain areas make sense.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:30 pm to AUstar
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exas has strong sun and lots of land. Might not make as much sense in Maine or Washington State. Texas also is one of the better states for wind, so wind farms in certain areas make sense.
If economic viability is your standard for "making sense" they never make sense.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:44 pm to Turbeauxdog
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If economic viability is your standard for "making sense" they never make sense.
Thats just simply not true. They have very predictable and competitive returns.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:49 pm to billjamin
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Thats just simply not true. They have very predictable and competitive returns.
There's nothing more predictable than a perpetual government subsidy.
Are you a serious human being ?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:51 pm to Turbeauxdog
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here's nothing more predictable than a perpetual government subsidy.
Whats the perpetual subsidy you're talking about?
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Are you a serious human being ?
I case you haven't figured it out yet, i know a thing or two about this.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:06 pm to billjamin
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We still ranch in the middle of one of the largest wind farms in west texas. The cows actually line up in the shadow of the turbines in the summer to get out of the sun.
north of Abilene? my in-laws in Stamford are seeing whole family farms succumb to industrial solar farms.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:07 pm to Average_Comments
Yes they produce energy and the final product looks nice
What it took to get there doesn’t justify it
What it took to get there doesn’t justify it
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:08 pm to 3nOut
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north of Abilene? my in-laws in Stamford are seeing whole family farms succumb to industrial solar farms.
South west. We get offers for solar farms every day and turn them down. I might do one at the bigger place out by Snyder since the DoD nuked the wind farm out there. But that area doesn’t have as much need yet.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:13 pm to billjamin
gotcha. I'm from San Angelo. I remember most of them going up on 277 in the mid -00s. Was a foreign concept at the time.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:28 pm to Smeg
Just having fun discussing issues. I am a conservative from Louisiana, not a maga zealot. My opinions are my own. A liberal most definitely not.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:31 pm to 3nOut
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gotcha. I'm from San Angelo. I remember most of them going up on 277 in the mid -00s. Was a foreign concept at the time.
My wife’s from San Angelo. Her grandma had some big feelings about the windmills but my FIL was in charge so all she could do was be passive aggressive lol.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:38 am to billjamin
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Whats the perpetual subsidy you're talking about?
Do we really have to do this?
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I case you haven't figured it out yet, i know a thing or two about this.
You may know one or two things, but those two things don't seem likely to be pertinent economically.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:52 am to Turbeauxdog
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Do we really have to do this?
Sure. I’m on a flight to LA so I have time.
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You may know one or two things, but those two things don't seem likely to be pertinent economically.
Well I put together financial models for energy deals all day and manage those assets for the banks that own them so it might be a bit more than one or two things.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:28 pm to Roughneck2020
“There is a huge difference between how tax deductions are handled by the oil industry versus subsidies given to wind and solar. Wind and solar need to be self sufficient. Plus, what is the value in royalties paid by the oil industry offshore and on BLM land?”
Most people don’t realize the amount of property taxes paid by oil companies. Every well is given a value and both the working interest owners and royalty owners pay property taxes on that assessed value. Every well you see is like a house that pays property taxes. A lot of those wells are the equivalent of the largest mansions in the state when it comes to tax revenue. Nothing helps a state’s budget like drilling, completing, producing, processing, and transporting oil and gas.
Most people don’t realize the amount of property taxes paid by oil companies. Every well is given a value and both the working interest owners and royalty owners pay property taxes on that assessed value. Every well you see is like a house that pays property taxes. A lot of those wells are the equivalent of the largest mansions in the state when it comes to tax revenue. Nothing helps a state’s budget like drilling, completing, producing, processing, and transporting oil and gas.
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