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re: WSJ article from Musk/Ramaswamy on DOGE plan to reform government

Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:59 am to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:59 am to
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On another note I worry that this may turn into a way to funnel money to contractors. If the "job still needs to be done" and the gov doesn't have employees to do it then they will look outside of the gov for help. The contractors would be able to hire the gov employees that were let go keeping employment numbers up but........the cost to the taxpayer doesn't change.


Inarguably, it will become more costly because the private venture is motivated by profit and growth. From the public perspective, their profit is government waste because it costs more than just hiring the employees to be government workers. From my military days, I have a pretty low opinion of government contracting. Most of the ventures are in essentially corporate welfare queens. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. Why do you think companies like Apple and others in the past attempt to do vertical integration when they reach the institutional capacity to pull it off?
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 9:00 am
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8214 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:51 am to
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By allowing the power of the EO to grow unchecked we have concentrated entirely too much power into the Executive Branch. It gives a rolling soft dictatorship.


The difference is the EO would be limiting government to eliminate waste within the executive branch

Now imagine a new president coming in and saying let hire anothe 25,000 people at taxpayer expense - personally, if like to see the people's reaction to that massive increase in spending
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:01 pm to
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I’ve heard food stamps and Medicaid being a possible target to work towards making those cuts.
I've heard Trump paid hookers to pee on a Moscow bed. I've heard Trump called Nazis in Charlottesville "good people." I've heard Trump is "LiterallyHitler." I've heard Kamala was a guaranteed win.

I've heard nothing of food stamps and medicaid being "targeted."
Just FWIW.
Posted by TigerAllNightLong
Member since Jul 2023
1085 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 2:15 pm to
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That’s the rub: defense, Medicare, and social security are the big line items yet people like national security and the social safety net for the elderly. I fear that most of everything else is trimming around the edges but acting like you just sculpted something from granite.

The PT board is blood thristy for some federal employee scalps but the problem is personal and corporate entitlements. That’s a much more difficult scalp to take.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 4:48 pm to
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In a major rebuke to President Trump, the U.S. Supreme Court has blocked the administration's plan to dismantle an Obama-era program that has protected 700,000 so-called DREAMers from deportation. The vote was 5-4, with Chief Justice John Roberts writing the opinion.
wasn't one of the reasons to go against Trump on this because Congress hand appropriated (or was it earmarked?) funds to the program? In effect giving tacit consent.

What we are seeing in some cases, primarily in DHS because of so many departments, is funds are being spent without specific earmark or appropriation which will change things a bit.

Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 11/21/24 at 5:02 pm to
It’s happening
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10917 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 5:27 pm to
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frick you working from home losers. If we can’t see you, you’re not working. Get the frick back to work or go broke. Your choice libtard fricks.


You’re a dumbass. Have you ever supervised or managed people? If so, did you evaluate their performance on nothing but their ability to show up at the workplace. Do you understand the savings in construction costs, maintenance, utilities, insurance, rent etc. for people that you don’t have to provide office space for? Or maybe you just don’ have a clue what DOGE plans to accomplish? And what makes you think that only liberals prefer to work from home? I’m also pretty sure Donald Trump plans to work from his office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Posted by shrevetigertom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
4518 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 5:30 pm to
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LegendInMyMind
Yes you are.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 7:27 am to
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a lot of good people losing jobs


The same people that coined learn to code?
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2844 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:42 am to
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Confirms my suspicions that this won’t be an actual government agency.
…which is a good thing, because we want the government accountable to the people.
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