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re: Y'all ready to spend $500B or more to rebuild Ukraine?

Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:32 am to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:32 am to
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Why doesn’t our government concern itself with our own issues that we have here?


That's exactly what I'm proposing here.

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Cut entitlement programs and use that money for infrastructure spending.


I specifically use the word "infrastructure".

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Remove all forms of income tax.


It's a marathon, not a sprint. You can't just snap your fingers and make it all happen at once. Tax reform is a Year 2 or Year 3 type of thing. I already have a plan to completely change healthcare - tax reform is a subsequent piece of the pie.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23382 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:32 am to
I don't want to give money to Russians.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17456 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:33 am to
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Round up all the SOB's that illegally walked in here and boot them back across the Rio Grande where they belong.


Yeah but they actually work.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:33 am to
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No, America First. We have military veterans in this country who need better health care and housing. We need to finish building the border wall. Plenty of better ways to spend the money than rebuilding Ukraine.


Yeah, I mention this stuff.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17456 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:34 am to
I was just speaking to some thoughts. No timeline for the objectives.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19900 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:36 am to
To be fair, plenty of poor whites get it too.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:53 am to
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Want to help the Black Community and the Native Americans? Round up all the SOB's that illegally walked in here and boot them back across the Rio Grande where they belong. Make it illegal as hell to hire any of them and enforce it.

Americans to do American jobs.


You are 100% correct. Those two communities are hurt by illegal immigration.

Well, in just this little piece I have $50B for border security. I realize you guys don't know all the plans I have but here's a glimpse - I am going to put EVERYTHING on the border.

ICE, Border Patrol, Active military, National Guard, Reserves etc. The entire border will be covered.

I even have a plan that is in work to consider a 5km safety corridor in Mexico, from about El Paso all the way to the Pacific, to offer industry a place to come back to North America from China and so forth. In this corridor I'd like to put a holding center for people to be processed before being released again, that way they are not held in the US - we apprehend someone here illegally, they go straight to this place in Mexico. Processed, released. Of course, I'm also entertaining bringing a fair number of them to DC and releasing them in the most affluent neighborhoods and in locations where congressional members and their staffs live, so they can see the results of their dereliction.

There's a lot of ideas, I'm still turning over the numbers, pros & cons etc. For example, it might be worth it to offer $500 to people that self-deport. Come through a port of entry, have fingerprints, DNA, retina scan, get $500 worth of Mexican Pesos, and off you go to Mexico and back home. If you come back and get arrested, then it's prison time in the holding center on the Mexican side.

This could get people out, give them a good chunk of money to start life again back in Mexico, and so on. If we have the safety corridor, now we have jobs for them to go to. We invest some money in the sea port on Mexico's coast, now we can get the largest container ships in there. More jobs to work the port.

Bring US trucks to Mexico, grab cargo, head north. Bring Mexican trucks (more jobs), grab cargo, turn south.

If we want to get even more ambitious, we tell some of the farmers in CA to use their equipment to start cutting fire breaks and such, so the state doesn't burn down each year, and move those crops to Mexico where many of them ought to be anyway. Save the water table in the US. More jobs in Mexico. Crops still grown with cheap labor and cheap overhead, US consumer not burdened.

This will cost money. I think it's worth it because it's about our sovereignty and our national security. But I can make it budget neutral. I haven't published everything but there is a way to pull back hundreds of billions in the federal budget.

I get all the points people are making here - but this is just one small piece of the pie that I'm addressing.

Lot of moving parts and I'm a one man show.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9689 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:02 am to
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$250B over ten years to the Native American and Black communities.


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American money to American communities


Just not white communities.

Downvote.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9676 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:06 am to
1/10th that amount would fund every Louisiana Coastal Master Plan project in the pipeline, and create a net gain of land on the coast within 40 years.

That’s how much $500 billion is. And it also shows you the waste we are talking about. That money could be spent meaningfully at home, but instead we flush it down the toilet and into the pockets of our “permanent ruling class.”
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7850 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:08 am to
If Russia wins (they will), we won't have to worry about it, and the Ukrainians will hate us. And, it's more than likely that double that amount will be needed.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17173 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:09 am to
FU

(frick Ukraine)
Posted by FISH N TIGER
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
1165 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:12 am to
Why would we help Russia rebuild Ukraine which is a country they will own very soon.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47274 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:15 am to
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Yeah but they actually work.




Americans would too if we'd stop giving them reasons not to.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:21 am to
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FYI I’m not voting for you. This is stupid, and I loathe Graham. Childish, and you want my respect to vote for you? GTFO


Well then, you're really going to throw a tantrum when I put Little Lady Lindsey in a uniform and toss her onto the Ukraine battlefield, because that's happening. Lindsey went over there and said, "Your fight is our fight." She's about to learn all about that. She wants to play dress up as a JAG but doesn't want to go on a patrol or anything, but she's very eager to send the rest of us to war. Yeah, I'm going to fix all that noise. Get angry if you want. The Little Lady deserves this and a lot more.


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Also, no community gets a dime… except vets, pay those dudes.


Pay them what? I'm a Vet. What would you like me to get paid? I'd love some free money.

I have plans for vets, but I'd love to hear yours. Put all of your piss & vinegar to use and spell out some details here. I have no ego here. If you have good ideas I'll embrace them.

Really interesting how you wet your pants over calling out Lindsey Graham and then talk about vets - he's a core reason vets get shafted in this nation. Always pushing us into war, bringing people back broken and messed up.

You realize every time we go through these war cycles we bring in people and then we cut funding later, and it's never acquisitions that get cut - no, your boy Lindsey that you want to fawn over makes sure those survive - but troops that do the fighting get fired, get drummed out of the service on fake charges so they don't get separation pay and so forth.

When the military was fabricating thousands of fake mental health discharges and mistreating troops, where was the Little Lady? Nowhere to be found. When DoD was ordered by Congress to start making things right and they failed, where was the Little Lady? Nowhere to be found. But don't let some MIC money get touched, no, the precious Little Lady will throw a fit.

When servicemembers have called Graham's office for help as they got railroaded by the DoD, Graham gave them the stiff arm.

And you want to wet your pants because I call out this scoundrel? Spare me the righteous indignation.

I'm not taking money or donations or listening to lobbyists. I will not be anyone's bitch. Maybe Trump wants to sit around the golf course and take turns with Lindsey giving each other handies, but I will never be like that. And I damn sure won't stop calling out forever losers like Graham. Trump can suck up to him if he wants. I will never do it. Graham deserves to be excoriated at every turn. From warmongering to sabotaging his own party just weeks before the midterms, he's a scumbag. Keep crying for him if you want.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:27 am to
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The Russians will not allow it. Make no mistake, they will take Ukraine. Putin will not give in.


Interesting. I don't think Putin wants to annex all of Ukraine. Not sure the juice is worth the squeeze in his opinion. But, we'll see.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:27 am to
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I don't want to give money to Russians.


I'm not doing that.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:28 am to
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I was just speaking to some thoughts. No timeline for the objectives.


Ok, thanks.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9985 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:28 am to
You had me until $250B to the Native American and Black communities
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:31 am to
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Just not white communities.

Downvote.


Fair enough but this is calculus, not arithmetic.

How about the $250B for the border / cancer / re-industrialization? You good with that part? Any white people affected by cancer? Whites part of industry? Whites affected by the border?
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6524 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:33 am to
The ultimate corruption paid for by US tax payers and money going to the people that help start the war, politicians, and corporations.
How can we even talk about this when they haven't beaten back Russia yet?
We gave Ukraine 100's of billions in supplies and weapons. That's enough in my book. You can rebuild yourself.
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