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re: Zelensky: America, you're not sending us enough money

Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:48 am to
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23098 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:48 am to
What about all the money Ukraine has laundered for Hunter Biden?
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:49 am to
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80% is stolen by politicians.


This is probably the amount given to pay the pension plans that was lightly reported by a few outlets.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18032 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:51 am to
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but pointed out there remains "a deficit of $5 billion in our budget.


Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103422 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:52 am to
To quote The Last Boy Scout, “It’ll be cheaper to kill this sumbitch instead.”
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2838 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:52 am to
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civilian infrastructure, schools, hospitals, universities, homes of Ukrainians.
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to attract our Ukrainians to come back home

Why is Ukraine not a US Territory if we pay for their police force, border security, military, and all of the infrastructure listed above???
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471818 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:52 am to
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I'm sure SlowFlowPro can help supplement that since he's so gung-ho about our involvement. Hit all the other OT warmongers up

The problem is you're focusing your emotions on the wrong people.

Putin/Russia should be the focus of that rage.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41598 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:54 am to
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Putin/Russia should be the focus of that rage.

No he shouldn't, because billions of American tax dollars are going to Ukraine, not Russia. We are spending more money concerning ourselves with a border in Eastern Europe than we are our own. It's absolute insanity.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6819 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:54 am to
Someone else pays for your war (which we shouldn't be doing), and you complain?


I tell ya, it's been fascinating and disturbing to see the reactions of people throughout all of this Russia/Ukraine drama. You have people who actually hailed Zelensky as some kind of hero, and then there are those who are convinced that Putin is actually the Russian version of Trump, and that he's actually been a good guy all along who's all about returning power to the people , and that we've been lied to about him, and he's going to save the world.

I think Putin has been misrepresented to a degree, and that he, in a strange way, stands to crumble globalism. That's a good thing. But I don't think he's trying to save the world just because he hates globalism. I think he merely wants to hoard all power to himself, and has been duping people into slowly giving him control for years.

Maybe I'm wrong. But I don't see the "good guy" angle with Putin. Zelensky, however, is clearly a fraud.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471818 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:55 am to
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Dude does love him some Ukrainian warhawking.

No, I don't.

But Russia fricked up the world. We have to live in that world.

All these lives. All this American money, it's because of Russia.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471818 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:56 am to
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because billions of American tax dollars are going to Ukraine

100% because of Russia
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41598 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:00 am to
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100% because of Russia

So Russia is now appropriating money from our treasury as well? We have zero obligation to send Ukraine anything. That's our politicians making that choice.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471818 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:01 am to
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So Russia is now appropriating money from our treasury as well?

No

They created the situation necessitating indirect response to their actions.

Do you honestly think an international system where unprovoked invasion is precedent and permitted will be good for America in the long term?
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 7:02 am
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41598 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:04 am to
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Do you honestly think an international system where unprovoked invasion is precedent and permitted



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471818 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:06 am to
Uh, I was always opposed to the Iraq invasion. That was 18 years ago? And was a failure and waste of money for the US.

It's inapplicable whataboutism with respect to Russia invading Ukraine in 2022.

Do you honestly think an international system where unprovoked invasion is precedent and permitted?

It's a simple yes or no question
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27073 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:07 am to
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7850 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:07 am to
It must be nice to be able to run this scam:
Install your puppet in another country, have him look the other way while you open up the graft sligots, have him demand more billions, all the while knowing that tax payer money will make it back to you and your friends. Brilliant! 
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41598 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:07 am to
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Do you honestly think an international system where unprovoked invasion is precedent and permitted?

I think it's absolutely none of our business and not one cent should be sent to Ukraine. Foreign aid is a scam anyway.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471818 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:10 am to
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I think it's absolutely none of our business


Ok, so I will ask again with a qualifier.

During Covid, we saw how badly supply chain disruptions frick up our economy and the lives of ordinary Americans. You don't think an international system where bad actors can invade strategic areas unprovoked may create similar/worse disruptions?

I can give you one hypothetical example and it rhymes with my lawn.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7850 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:11 am to
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...unprovoked invasion...


Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96420 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:12 am to
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All these lives. All this American money, it's because of Russia.




They had a peace deal
Bojo and US denied that

Stop with your meierda
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