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Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:29 am to
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:29 am to
I think football club managers are vastly overrated yet they have god-like egos. There are a handful that are really unique and special, but most aren't much better than what an educated fan could produce with the talent Chelsea has on the pitch.

The club changing managers every couple years is indicative of disarray within the overall management...and it's going to run off the remaining talent we do have today.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 12:51 pm to
I hate that Pulisic is walking into a clusterfrick
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:41 pm to
We have other issues but problem 1-10 is that we don’t have a striker. As for Sarri I lost faith in him just like I have every other manager who thought playing Hazard up top. EPL has got pretty gay now anyway. No good hard Englishmen committed to their clubs inspiring the fans and creating rivalries . Just a bunch of foreign mercenaries sold to the highest bidder. Then they all go to Ibiza together in the summer and fig it up on Instagram. It’s turning into the NBA
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:44 pm to
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find it hilarious that Chelsea are in a Cup Final, the 5th Round of the FA Cup, have a very good shot at Europa League, and in the race for the Top 4... but yet are in total crisis mode because they've had a bit of a blip over the past month and lost to one of the best teams in Premier League history.


It’s what we do
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:59 pm to
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No good hard Englishmen committed to their clubs inspiring the fans and creating rivalries


Have you failed to watch a single Manchester Derby or City v Liverpool match over the last two years?

There is plenty of rivalry being built amongst the players at these three clubs, English included.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 9:05 pm to
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No good hard Englishmen

Do you not remember Dier in The Battle of The Bridge...

Also, I wouldn't mess with Mark Nobel or Maguire.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 9:18 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 9:19 pm to
The fact you think those are anything like the United Arsenal United Chelsea Chelsea Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool of the late 90s through early 10s shows how far it has fallen. Eric Dier being one off jelly thug doesn’t quite cut it.

I will say at least there’s a real title race this year unlike the last several.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:44 am to
If either of the parties did the appropriate due diligence...

I just don't understand how a) Chelsea hire a manager like Sarri without backing his rigid philosophy, by getting him the players he needs and the patience to realize it won't happen over one window b) Sarri accepts the job, without those guarantees..
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 5:48 am
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:53 am to
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City v Liverpoo


I think this will be a good one for the next few years... We have locked up all our top guys on long term deals.. I'm not exactly sure about Citys situation, but I have no doubts they'll field strong teams going forward.. Obviously, a couple of others could be right there, as well...
Posted by ezride25
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:35 am to
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I will say at least there’s a real title race this year unlike the last several.


That’s one way to look at it. Two horse race is another. Everyone else is getting left behind is another....
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 9:36 am
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:54 am to
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Obviously, a couple of others could be right there, as well...


United, Chelsea and Arsenal are both 3-4 key players away from competing for a title give or take 1-2 depending on the side, imo.

quote:

I'm not exactly sure about Citys situation


All of City’s key players are locked down through 2021 or longer aside from Kompany who will retire at the end of next season.

The prem is on the rise, despite what Randy says, imo. Those old battles are nostalgia and the football being played today is much more exciting and fluid.

Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25112 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 12:10 pm to
There is a noticeable talent gap between City and Chelsea. Let’s not act like this is all tactics and Pep wizardry. City is just flat out better talent wise than almost every club in the world not named FCB, RM, or PSG.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:23 pm to
Are you saying Ross Barkley couldn't get in the team at City?
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:23 pm to
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The prem is on the rise, despite what Randy says, imo. Those old battles are nostalgia and the football being played today is much more exciting and fluid.



lol, right in the same way that the Big 12 is more exciting than the SEC
Posted by ezride25
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:29 pm to
They sure are willing to spend but they’ve also spent wisely. Chelsea looks a whole lot differently today if they had kept kdb salah and to a lesser extent even lukaku whom I’d trade for anyone we’ve put up there since costa. We shall see about higuain but even if he finds his form he’s still 31 already.

Meanwhile we spend large sums on players like drinkwater zappacosta and bakayoko while tiptoeing a fine line with players like ake rlc and cho. The market is the market and as much as I want pulisic to succeed my fear is that we may have overspent for what he will return as well.

Don’t even get me started on Alvaro. The silver lining is that Kepa looks to be worth every penny so far.
Posted by ezride25
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Are you saying Ross Barkley couldn't get in the team at City?


Cup matches maybe but he is making a bid to revive his career yet and is continuing to improve. If he does it’ll be one of the best moves we’ve made in recent windows... which says A LOT
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:50 pm to
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There is a noticeable talent gap between City and Chelsea. Let’s not act like this is all tactics and Pep wizardry. City is just flat out better talent wise than almost every club in the world not named FCB, RM, or PSG.


I disagree to an extent. City have hit on a lot of their transfers. United and Chelsea have not. City were also the first to go through and essentially complete their entire rebuild of the squad. Liverpool have recently done this as well.

Chelsea, Arsenal and United have bought poor whether in terms of players or mismanaging the hiring/firing of managers.
Posted by ezride25
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:27 pm to
It’s not huge (yet) but there is a gap. Plus they’ve had the added benefit of having already implemented an overhaul which is producing results, and several windows to maneuver beyond that success. I guess it remains to be seen if you can actually fight fire with fire.
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:33 pm to
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Chelsea, Arsenal and United have bought poor whether in terms of players or mismanaging the hiring/firing of managers.




while undoubtedly true, cheslea's spending has come at a relatively low net spend, lower than everton's in the past 5 yrs.

chelsea's biggest issue has been rotating players in and out without amassing depth and competition. our last few biggest buys have come as direct, like for like replacements, not counting pulisic.

the ideal model would be to flesh out the squad with the cream of the youth teams instead of burning cash on the drinkwaters, girouds, and zappacostas to ride the bench, and re-invest those savings into a 2 or 3 world class buys, but obviously the people in charge are idiots.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:39 pm to
Meanwhile: **Spurs confused by the concept of buying players**
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