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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:49 am to
Posted by Tiger Phil
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:49 am to
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I understand you're point but we have 350 million people and the best resources in the world


Not in a soccer sense. We are quite poor with regards to soccer. It's why youth parents fund soccer development instead of MLS clubs.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:49 am to
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We arent as good as croatia.

We aren't?
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:51 am to
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We arent as good as croatia. We aren't?


Not even close. A healthy Modric and Rakitic would destroy our midfield.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:51 am to
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It's why youth parents fund soccer development instead of MLS clubs.



Definitely our biggest problem.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:51 am to
No, we aren't When we have starters for Barcelona and Real Madrid starting in our midfield then we can talk again.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:52 am to
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Not even close. A healthy Modric and Rakitic would destroy our midfield.

I'd like our chances with a healthy team and a competent manager.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:57 am to
Absolutely not. They have Luka Modric (my favorite CM in the world), Ivan Rakitic, perisic, etc. they are so immensely talented and light years ahead of us.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:02 am to
No fricking chance. Luka would single-handedly beat us. He impacts a game maybe more than anyone else outside of Messi and healthy Ronaldo.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:12 am to
Are yall saying Croatia is a top 7 team in the world? Because that is how you are describing them. We can go toe to toe with anyone not in the top ten.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:14 am to
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1 game missing 3 starters against a team that has only lost like in extra time in the world cup finals and in penalties in last years copa doesnt define the state of US soccer



This is true. I think the frustration comes form getting out of the group stage and winning the first elimination game. I mean, I think everyone knows we had a very slim chance to win, but I think people really really hoped.

People should still be happy, Jurgen's problems or not, it's just sucks to go out that way.

That and it was an "all eyes on us" moment for US Soccer. For soccer fans, they are impatiently waiting for that one moment when the USMNT transcends everything, and helps make soccer a more premier sport in the country. Every time a game or tournament situation like this comes along, it has that chance, that feeling.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:17 am to
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I think the frustration comes form getting out of the group stage and winning the first elimination game.

No. That's not where the frustration comes from.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:19 am to
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No. That's not where the frustration comes from.


In this specific situation, I'm not talking about the overall Jurgen reactions, etc. But even though we probably had a very very small chance to win, it just felt like we could. You get that far and expect to compete.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:22 am to
I expect to not put the two worst players on the field.
Posted by Cocotheape
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:26 am to
And there's no shame in that, Croatia are quite good right now.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:04 am to
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1 game missing 3 starters against a team that has only lost like in extra time in the world cup finals and in penalties in last years copa doesnt define the state of US soccer


Missing 3 starters does not excuse poor execution of basic passes and trapping. I'll say this til my face turns F'ing blue, but most people's frustrations have nothing to do with our player's skills being inferior to Argentina's. It has everything to do with playing scared, unforced turnovers, lack of awareness on offense and defense, and poor decision making. How many times did we opt to clear the ball instead of trapping and passing to another player (when their was time to do so). How many times did we try to just boot the ball down the field to Zardes or Wondo, only for it to go long or be recovered by their defense?
Posted by Tiger Phil
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:08 am to
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Missing 3 starters does not excuse poor execution of basic passes and trapping.


Exactly. It was tactical fear from the manager as we saw against Belgium, but individual technical fear that lowered confidence, which destroyed first touch, passing and movement.
Posted by SuperSoakher
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:13 am to
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I think the problem is in the soccer world the gap between the haves and have nots is widening as a whole


Couldnt disagree more. The US is a have not team and just made it to the semifinals. Losing 4-0 to Argentina, the best team in the world currently, happens. Iceland, Hungary, Wales, Albania, Northern Ireland, Netherlands, Portugal would all disagree with that statement as well. Even look at Algeria, id say they could play a good game against most top 10 teams.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:13 am to
Yep, but we eventually overcame that fear against Belgium and had a chance to win the game. Except:

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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:57 am to
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Posted by Dalosaqy
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:16 pm to
5) JK gave brand new meaning to the term "free range" when it came to Lionel Messi.
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