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re: Sacramento Republic just made the US Open Cup final
Posted on 7/28/22 at 10:41 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 7/28/22 at 10:41 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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It’s not even better than the Championship, don’t see it adding that kind of depth in 8 years.
Championship teams aren't even all financially stable with the what they have to spend to try to get to the prem. MLS is much better across the board with financial security. MLS is arguably a top 10-12 league right now in the world and is getting better every year. It's about ready to pass up Liga MX for #2 western hemisphere league. Only Europe has better leagues otherwise, and once you start getting to Eredivisie and Liga Portugal you are talking about just a few great teams and a bunch of shite. It won't be hard to surpass those leagues for depth.
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 1:17 am to GhostofJackson
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MLS is much better across the board with financial security. MLS is arguably a top 10-12 league right now in the world and is getting better every year. It's about ready to pass up Liga MX for #2 western hemisphere league. Only Europe has better leagues otherwise, and once you start getting to Eredivisie and Liga Portugal you are talking about just a few great teams and a bunch of shite. It won't be hard to surpass those leagues for depth.
seems like good things happen when you build nice stadiums and don't have cartel hits at your games...
Posted on 7/29/22 at 6:42 am to GhostofJackson
MLS needs to produce better domestic players that stay home to pass any of those leagues like Brazil, Mexico and Argentina
Which it doesn’t
The leagues low salaries and restricted rules on squads limit the quality as a whole
It’s the 4th best league quality wise in the Western Hemisphere
It’s not close to passing the championship
You are drinking the kool-aid
As for financial security you literally have owners who use it as a tax write off and don’t bother to compete and have no penalties for it. That’s not good for the overall quality of the league or competitiveness from top to bottom. Bottom teams stop trying and fans stop going.
Franchises are “stable” bc they are able leach off others. MLS as a whole operates in the red not sure how it’s financially stable. The only reason the values of clubs go up is bc of the franchise fees and ownership in MLS rights gives you access to own American soccer broadcasting rights. Which is what some owners are only interested in.
The clubs in England who are ran terrible pay the price for it, in MLS not so much.
Which it doesn’t
The leagues low salaries and restricted rules on squads limit the quality as a whole
It’s the 4th best league quality wise in the Western Hemisphere
It’s not close to passing the championship
You are drinking the kool-aid
As for financial security you literally have owners who use it as a tax write off and don’t bother to compete and have no penalties for it. That’s not good for the overall quality of the league or competitiveness from top to bottom. Bottom teams stop trying and fans stop going.
Franchises are “stable” bc they are able leach off others. MLS as a whole operates in the red not sure how it’s financially stable. The only reason the values of clubs go up is bc of the franchise fees and ownership in MLS rights gives you access to own American soccer broadcasting rights. Which is what some owners are only interested in.
The clubs in England who are ran terrible pay the price for it, in MLS not so much.
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 7:00 am
Posted on 7/29/22 at 8:30 am to StraightCashHomey21
It's already passed Argentina. You just haven't been paying attention. The Argentine league is in shambles and the teams are losing a ton of money and having to sell players. Neither Boca or River Plate made it to the quarters of the Libertadores, and those are the flagship teams in their league. There are just as many teams in their first division as MLS and the back end is bad.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:16 am to GhostofJackson
The quality of players in Argentina is better than MLS
MLS would get a rude awakening in the South American cup competitions
You are delusional
Just on a domestic produced level it’s better for staters
You think it’s gonna be a top six league in 8 years but we don’t even produce top 6 talent at home
Argentina is a prime example of punishment for bad ownership not rewarding it like MLS does. fricking River got relegated.
MLS back end is like League One level bad
You keep talking finances but only a few MLS clubs make a profit and the league is in the red every year
MLS would get a rude awakening in the South American cup competitions
You are delusional
Just on a domestic produced level it’s better for staters
You think it’s gonna be a top six league in 8 years but we don’t even produce top 6 talent at home
Argentina is a prime example of punishment for bad ownership not rewarding it like MLS does. fricking River got relegated.
MLS back end is like League One level bad
You keep talking finances but only a few MLS clubs make a profit and the league is in the red every year
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 9:31 am
Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:23 am to StraightCashHomey21
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MLS back end is like League One level bad
Bro speak for DC all you want but most MLS teams would easily win league one.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:25 am to cwil177
Meh I’d say probably half would
The lower MLS teams are league one bad
Throw in also playing all those cup competitions the MLS lack of squad depth would be tested
But yea teams like LAFC would definitely win it
The lower MLS teams are league one bad
Throw in also playing all those cup competitions the MLS lack of squad depth would be tested
But yea teams like LAFC would definitely win it
Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:55 am to StraightCashHomey21
Dude Argentina is in a full on financial crisis. Their dollar is falling apart. MLS has passed them post covid and it most likely won't catch back up. It's not a talent production issue, it's that their entire country is having serious financial problems.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 10:01 am to GhostofJackson
We don’t produce the level of players at home they do
Their league despite financial issues has better domestic players
MLS also has financial issues
Bc the country is in economic crisis doesn’t mean our league is better
What tangible qualities in MLS players do you see better than in Argentina
Their league despite financial issues has better domestic players
MLS also has financial issues
Bc the country is in economic crisis doesn’t mean our league is better
What tangible qualities in MLS players do you see better than in Argentina
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 10:03 am
Posted on 7/29/22 at 10:13 am to StraightCashHomey21
They can't retain their players right now. The US isn't facing a collapse of the dollar. It doesn't matter level of talent they produce if it doesn't stay domestically. Other SA nations are sending their talent to MLS like never before.
And salary is disingenuous. Minimums are getting higher every year. DP contracts have been getting into Euro levels. You are looking at what the Argentine league was pre covid. It's not the same.
And salary is disingenuous. Minimums are getting higher every year. DP contracts have been getting into Euro levels. You are looking at what the Argentine league was pre covid. It's not the same.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 10:21 am to GhostofJackson
You keep talking league structure
Not quality of players
Argentina has always sold off its best young players it’s a good model for MLS to follow
But the players who stay at home are much better than the players we produce that stay home.
Funny you brought that up the avg MLS salary isn’t even close to the avg Championship one and you expect it to be a better league in 8 years.
Basically all of them except a few are attacking players showing the huge gap in terms of quality on the defensive side.
Not quality of players
Argentina has always sold off its best young players it’s a good model for MLS to follow
But the players who stay at home are much better than the players we produce that stay home.
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Minimums are getting higher every year.
Funny you brought that up the avg MLS salary isn’t even close to the avg Championship one and you expect it to be a better league in 8 years.
quote:For some of the smaller leagues yes. MLS is no where close to offering 100k+ salaries a week. The league would be in worse financial troubles than it already is. Look at the top 20 earners in the league. A majority of them are over 30 DPs some of which are stealing money. Shaqiri is the top paid player in MLS
DP contracts have been getting into Euro levels.
Basically all of them except a few are attacking players showing the huge gap in terms of quality on the defensive side.
quote:the league structure has been in shambles for years. I’m talking about quality of players which means better quality of play.
You are looking at what the Argentine league was pre covid. It's not the same.
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 7/29/22 at 10:54 am to StraightCashHomey21
Dude make up your mind on your argument. You said the Argentine league was better than MLS and now seem to be back tracking talking about talent. Give me a hard yes or no. Is the Argentine league better than MLS right now? I want to know if I can take you serious or not.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 10:56 am to GhostofJackson
In terms of quality quality of players and play it is a better league
My stance hasn’t hasn’t changed
You keep talking about finances
If your measuring stick for a top league isn’t the quality of players and play I don’t know what to tell you
If it was all financial situation the Saudi and Qatar league would be top leagues
We saw how that worked out for China
My stance hasn’t hasn’t changed
You keep talking about finances
If your measuring stick for a top league isn’t the quality of players and play I don’t know what to tell you
If it was all financial situation the Saudi and Qatar league would be top leagues
We saw how that worked out for China
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 11:05 am
Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:08 am to StraightCashHomey21
No it's quality of team. Right now the average team in MLS is eclipsing the average team in Argentina. In the next ten years the US will host both the World Cup and the Olympics which should be great exposure. There will be many more markets with MLS and USL teams by then. It will be the healthiest the sport has ever been in the modern era. Couple that with global demographics changes. 2032 is a long ways away but the US will be a huge soccer market then.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:10 am to StraightCashHomey21
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You keep talking about finances If your measuring stick for a top league isn’t the quality of players and play I don’t know what to tell you
It’s almost like money buys top players for your league…
Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:19 am to GhostofJackson
Quality of players mean better quality of teams mean better quality of player which makes a better league
MLS hasn’t surpassed Argentina yet and a big reason if the domestic talent
No one is arguing the growth of the sport here
The WC will be a big help but no one really cares about Olympic soccer so that’s not as helpful growth wise
MLS isn’t close to being a top 6 league and to think it will be one in 8 years is insane
It’s a league operating with one hand behind its back for multiple reasons
Also a top six league needs to be the the first choice sports wise in a country and MLS isn’t that
More people watch EPL and LigaMX just soccer wise
Throw in the fact the most important part of the MLS season is during football season it will never be top dog in this country.
MLS hasn’t surpassed Argentina yet and a big reason if the domestic talent
No one is arguing the growth of the sport here
The WC will be a big help but no one really cares about Olympic soccer so that’s not as helpful growth wise
MLS isn’t close to being a top 6 league and to think it will be one in 8 years is insane
It’s a league operating with one hand behind its back for multiple reasons
Also a top six league needs to be the the first choice sports wise in a country and MLS isn’t that
More people watch EPL and LigaMX just soccer wise
Throw in the fact the most important part of the MLS season is during football season it will never be top dog in this country.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:23 am to StraightCashHomey21
Because you say it has to be the top league in the US to be top 6 that makes it true? Okay bud. Have fun.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:25 am to chalmetteowl
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It’s almost like money buys top players for your league
Then why isn’t the Saudi and Qatar league not top leagues
Why is the Chinese league a mess
Bc they don’t produce talent as well
Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:28 am to GhostofJackson
What is gonna make it a top six league in 8 years
We don’t produce enough domestic talent for starters
We don’t pay enough and have stupid rules
It’s the 4/5th most popular sport in America
It’s not even the most popular or watched soccer league in America
It’s not watched globally
The league operates in the red
The list can go on
But keep believing it will be a top six league in 8 years just bc you say so…..
We don’t produce enough domestic talent for starters
We don’t pay enough and have stupid rules
It’s the 4/5th most popular sport in America
It’s not even the most popular or watched soccer league in America
It’s not watched globally
The league operates in the red
The list can go on
But keep believing it will be a top six league in 8 years just bc you say so…..
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:03 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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no one really cares about Olympic soccer
I’ve never seen someone repeat an obvious lie so frequently and with such conviction.
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