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re: The Official Fire Gregg Berhalter Thread
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:14 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:14 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Joga Bonito
@Jasoninho10
#USMNT now winless in 11 straight away games over last 3 years.
-Last away win was Cuba friendly in Oct. 2016.
-Only competitive away win since 2014 WC was WCQ at St. Vincent & Grenadines in Sep. 2016.
-No away wins in last Hex.
-Loss in Berhalter's first away game.
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:15 pm to Broski
Might as well count the last two Mexico matches as away lol
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:16 pm to Broski
I got downvoted, TWICE, for my #BerhalterOut in the game thread. Needless to say I’ve seen enough, and fully support the removal of this disgraceful American. I’m only disappointed I’m not on the first page.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:17 pm to PhilipMarlowe
TWICE!!???
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:22 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Not even jobu can help with this farce. Somebody get me when they let Greg with an extra g go.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:22 pm to StraightCashHomey21
To be fair, I wouldn’t consider him a “bang average” MLS manager.
He doesn’t belong in the ranks of the elite MLS managers for sure, but anyone who watched his 5 years at the Crew would probably agree he’s at least an above average MLS manager.
He generally had some of the worst talent overall in the league to work with and definitely the worst owner, but he generally got his teams to play beyond their means and with an attractive style. He made the playoffs four of his five years and won quite a few playoff games against superior teams on paper. His Crew teams were kind of like the Oakland A’s of MLS. Not elite, but they tended to overachieve.
I’d rate him like a 7 out of 10 on the MLS manager scale, with Anthony Hudson being a 1 and Bob Bradley and Bruce Arena being a 10. IMO, “bang average” MLS managers would be guys like Carl Robinson, Jay Heaps, and Jim Curtin that just coast around .500 and rarely make any noise in the playoffs. The type of guys you forget are/were in the league until they coach against your team.
There’s no defending Gregg as an international manager, though. He’s beyond his depth and refuses to be pragmatic when the team is screaming out for that. This needs to be his last game for the US. He ain’t the answer.
He doesn’t belong in the ranks of the elite MLS managers for sure, but anyone who watched his 5 years at the Crew would probably agree he’s at least an above average MLS manager.
He generally had some of the worst talent overall in the league to work with and definitely the worst owner, but he generally got his teams to play beyond their means and with an attractive style. He made the playoffs four of his five years and won quite a few playoff games against superior teams on paper. His Crew teams were kind of like the Oakland A’s of MLS. Not elite, but they tended to overachieve.
I’d rate him like a 7 out of 10 on the MLS manager scale, with Anthony Hudson being a 1 and Bob Bradley and Bruce Arena being a 10. IMO, “bang average” MLS managers would be guys like Carl Robinson, Jay Heaps, and Jim Curtin that just coast around .500 and rarely make any noise in the playoffs. The type of guys you forget are/were in the league until they coach against your team.
There’s no defending Gregg as an international manager, though. He’s beyond his depth and refuses to be pragmatic when the team is screaming out for that. This needs to be his last game for the US. He ain’t the answer.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:37 pm to Macintosh
quote:
This is what happens when you keep hiring mls losers. We need to stay away from that shite league as much as possible
Weird thing to say considering we just got our asses kicked by a team with more MLS players on the field than us.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:39 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
Have a down vote for previously doubting my wisdom
eh nahhhPosted on 10/15/19 at 9:39 pm to arkyhawk
Problem is MLS is improving other teams in the federation but is having a negative impact on the USMNT
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:46 pm to Broski
Oh shite I forgot we played tonight
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:47 pm to Caplewood
quote:
Oh shite I forgot we played tonight
Consider yourself blessed.
Hasn't been the best week for USMNT/Braves fans.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:49 pm to Caplewood
quote:
Oh shite I forgot we played tonight
No biggy. We just missed some 50/50 balls.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:00 pm to GeauxTigers2020
Don’t announce Bielsa.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:11 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:read what he wrote again and then read what I wrote
Bob wasn’t an average MLS manager tho
The guy was making a blanket statement about MLS managers and I pointed out Bob was a serviceable US manager and is someone that people would die to have again. That’s where we are at right now.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:12 pm to cwil177
Keep carrying that water
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:17 pm to Michael Stein
quote:
wouldn’t consider him a “bang average” MLS manager.
He doesn’t belong in the ranks of the elite MLS managers for sure, but anyone who watched his 5 years at the Crew would probably agree he’s at least an above average MLS manager.
He generally had some of the worst talent overall in the league to work with and definitely the worst owner, but he generally got his teams to play beyond their means and with an attractive style. He made the playoffs four of his five years and won quite a few playoff games against superior teams on paper. His Crew teams were kind of like the Oakland A’s of MLS. Not elite, but they tended to overachieve.
I’d rate him like a 7 out of 10 on the MLS manager scale, with Anthony Hudson being a 1 and Bob Bradley and Bruce Arena being a 10. IMO, “bang average” MLS managers would be guys like Carl Robinson, Jay Heaps, and Jim Curtin that just coast around .500 and rarely make any noise in the playoffs. The type of guys you forget are/were in the league until they coach against your team.
There’s no defending Gregg as an international manager, though. He’s beyond his depth and refuses to be pragmatic when the team is screaming out for that. This needs to be his last game for the US. He ain’t the answer.
I think this is an honest assessment of Gregg as a coach. And I’m willing to admit I was wrong about the guy. I’m an optimist and got my hopes up. On to the next one.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:18 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
Keep carrying that water
Damn dude can’t even be gracious when I admit you’re right
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:24 pm to cwil177
Sorry I care about American soccer and don’t blindly support what ever MLS throws out there
The enablers need to be held accountable for their blind support
The enablers need to be held accountable for their blind support
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:25 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Lol you don’t think I care as much about this team as you do. You know what homey, I bow to your infinite wisdom, all hail his cashness
Lmao yeah I enable US soccer by posting my opinions on tigerdroppings and spending $0 on that organization in the past 6 years.
Lmao yeah I enable US soccer by posting my opinions on tigerdroppings and spending $0 on that organization in the past 6 years.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:55 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I’m not sure what’s worse.
That we hired Berhalter, or that we took almost a year to do so.
You were on this from the beginning (along with some others). A completely uninspiring, middle-of-the-pack MLS manager.
The team doesn’t seem to believe in him and plays with next to zero passion. I loved watching the U-20 team play this summer and thought they had so much joy and chemistry. Our senior national team has none.
That we hired Berhalter, or that we took almost a year to do so.
You were on this from the beginning (along with some others). A completely uninspiring, middle-of-the-pack MLS manager.
The team doesn’t seem to believe in him and plays with next to zero passion. I loved watching the U-20 team play this summer and thought they had so much joy and chemistry. Our senior national team has none.
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