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re: network card for gigapower speed
Posted on 4/23/15 at 2:40 pm to loopback
Posted on 4/23/15 at 2:40 pm to loopback
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What are your tangible improvements between say 90Mbps and 1Gbps?
When I went from 5Mb to 100Mb, I saw a drastic improvement in the speed at which I could download huge files...
Are you saying that going from 90 to 1000, would not show an equal result...
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 2:45 pm to GrammarKnotsi
That is exactly what I am saying.
Now downloading huge files would reflect some improvements, but aside from that, will you have a noticeable increase in page load times? Online game faster? Stream video faster? Post pics to FB faster?
You can't tell me you think the difference between 5Mbps to 100Mpbs is proportional to 90Mbps to 1Gbps
That's like saying going from a scooter to a mustang is the same as going from a mustang to a corvette.
Now downloading huge files would reflect some improvements, but aside from that, will you have a noticeable increase in page load times? Online game faster? Stream video faster? Post pics to FB faster?
You can't tell me you think the difference between 5Mbps to 100Mpbs is proportional to 90Mbps to 1Gbps
That's like saying going from a scooter to a mustang is the same as going from a mustang to a corvette.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 3:17 pm to loopback
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the difference between 5Mbps to 100Mpbs is proportional to 90Mbps to 1Gbps
Its almost identical..Are you special..? You could say 10-100 is 10x faster...Therefore, 100-1000 is....You guessed it...
They must really have you brainwashed with whatever ISP you push
Posted on 4/23/15 at 3:27 pm to GrammarKnotsi
Until you can grasp the concept of bandwidth utilization there's no point in discussing this.
I'm not an idiot. I know that by the numbers 1Gbps is much faster than 90Mbps. But in terms of household bandwidth utilization, the % utilized in the increase from 5Mbps to 90Mbps is exponentially more substantial than what would be utilized from 90Mbps to 1Gbps.
I'm sorry you don't seem to understand that concept.
And please enough with the ISP assumptions I have stated time and time again this has nothing to do with a particular ISP or any ISP for that matter. My argument comes solely from the idea of what the average household can actually make use of when it comes to bandwidth.
I'm not an idiot. I know that by the numbers 1Gbps is much faster than 90Mbps. But in terms of household bandwidth utilization, the % utilized in the increase from 5Mbps to 90Mbps is exponentially more substantial than what would be utilized from 90Mbps to 1Gbps.
I'm sorry you don't seem to understand that concept.
And please enough with the ISP assumptions I have stated time and time again this has nothing to do with a particular ISP or any ISP for that matter. My argument comes solely from the idea of what the average household can actually make use of when it comes to bandwidth.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:51 pm to loopback
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but the farce that is 1Gbps to the home.
how is it a farce
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:54 pm to loopback
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My argument comes solely from the idea of what the average household can actually make use of when it comes to bandwidth.
and with every generation getting more tech savy you will need more bandwidth and better download speed and on fiber.
I have 100 fiber down but id jump at the chance at a gig down.
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Until you can grasp the concept of bandwidth utilization there's no point in discussing this.
you do realize he is an IT professional
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 4/23/15 at 5:11 pm to loopback
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My argument comes solely from the idea of what the average household can actually make use of when it comes to bandwidth.
So what's the average household like?
Also, when is Cox rolling out gigabit for the BR area?
Also. Three weeks ago, I spent 10 minutes trying to explain to a door-to-door uverse internet salesman that I do indeed get most of the throughput one would expect from my 100mbps connection, and that it would be nonsensical for me to switch to a 18mbps ADSL+ interleaved connection for a $10 discount, even if my streams loaded at the same rate.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 6:47 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I can understand loopback's argument. A typical household isn't going to receive a noticeable gain switching from 90mpbs to 1gbps connection - even if the 90 runs at 110up/20down and the 1gbps runs at 400-600up/down.
That said, if you're paying $100 for 110/20 and would be paying $100 for 400-600/400-600 and all you need to do is replace a $20 NIC and have a service call, I think most anyone would jump on it.
Although the difference would probably only be observable with large file transfers, it's still a no-brainer IMO.
On the other hand if 110/20 was $100 and a full 1000/1000 was $250, you'd really have to weigh cost/benefit. I typical 4 family household utilizes bandwidth streaming (videos, video-chat, gaming) and loading static web pages. There would be little negligible difference. If there is a lot of large file transfers (e.g. home office, remote work) or torrenting then of course the extra throughput would be valuable.
That said, if you're paying $100 for 110/20 and would be paying $100 for 400-600/400-600 and all you need to do is replace a $20 NIC and have a service call, I think most anyone would jump on it.
Although the difference would probably only be observable with large file transfers, it's still a no-brainer IMO.
On the other hand if 110/20 was $100 and a full 1000/1000 was $250, you'd really have to weigh cost/benefit. I typical 4 family household utilizes bandwidth streaming (videos, video-chat, gaming) and loading static web pages. There would be little negligible difference. If there is a lot of large file transfers (e.g. home office, remote work) or torrenting then of course the extra throughput would be valuable.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 6:57 pm to drizztiger
You need to post here more often.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 7:11 pm to ILikeLSUToo
quote:I'll make an effort.
You need to post here more often.
I've been lurking this board a lot without having much to be specifically helpful. Easily you know you're one of my favorite posters here since this board was introduced - I was a regular poster back then.
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 7:17 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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So what's the average household like
I would venture to guess the average household can utilize 25-50Mbps and anything further would not be noticeable.
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Also, when is Cox rolling out gigabit for the BR area?
To my knowledge it's already available in some neighborhoods. However I imagine it will be some time before it's available to every residential customer.
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do indeed get most of the throughput one would expect from my 100mbps connection
Tell me what you are doing to use a full 100Mbps.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 7:21 pm to drizztiger
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drizztiger
This post is the exact point I was trying to make.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 7:40 pm to loopback
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Tell me what you are doing to use a full 100Mbps.
Torrenting
Posted on 4/24/15 at 2:23 am to loopback
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To my knowledge it's already available in some neighborhoods. However I imagine it will be some time before it's available to every residential customer.
Cox isn't rolling out fiber on a national scale
Posted on 4/24/15 at 2:25 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Cox isn't rolling out fiber on a national scale
Link?
Posted on 4/24/15 at 2:33 am to loopback
They have done it in Phoenix bc google fiber is looking there.
LINK
AT&T and Cox are only looking into doing in places that google fiber can take their customers. AT&T is also doing it where their HQ is at.
The only fiber on a huge national scale is Fios
Running fiber to the door is expensive but they could at least do fiber to cabinet and then improve the last mile infrastructure.
LINK
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Phoenix is one of the markets that Google is targeting for Google Fiber. This also happens to be a city in which Cox is the largest pay-TV operator, with 578,00 subscribers, according to Bloomberg.
The competition from Google has spurred other major broadband companies to answer the 1Gbps call. AT&T has deployed fiber to residential customers in Austin, and it began offering a 300Mbps broadband service in December. The company plans to increase that speed to 1Gbps by the end of the year at no additional charge to consumers.
AT&T also has said it plans to expand its Gigabit fiber service to as many as 100 cities.
AT&T and Cox are only looking into doing in places that google fiber can take their customers. AT&T is also doing it where their HQ is at.
The only fiber on a huge national scale is Fios
Running fiber to the door is expensive but they could at least do fiber to cabinet and then improve the last mile infrastructure.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 2:38 am
Posted on 4/24/15 at 2:45 am to loopback
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Tell me what you are doing to use a full 100Mbps.
everything
HD streaming, torrenting, pc and console gaming, running other multiple devices, two smart tv, cloud storage, thinking about running a server soon.
Also my fiber quality tv is awesome.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:20 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Cox isn't rolling out fiber on a national scale
Loopback hates to hear this...Its an old argument with him, but still the same...
LB.What speeds do you run at your house..?
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:04 am to GrammarKnotsi
Was paying $85 for home phone and 50mb and it's $120 for 1 GB and phone now. Oh yeah and my company is paying for it and boss approved it
$0 installation and it took 50 minutes for tech because I already had fiber to my door
Didn't see the downside. I run 12 devices on wifi all at times throughout my house and I got this new router from Att which is brand new and much more durable and better wifi signal
Why not?
$0 installation and it took 50 minutes for tech because I already had fiber to my door
Didn't see the downside. I run 12 devices on wifi all at times throughout my house and I got this new router from Att which is brand new and much more durable and better wifi signal
Why not?
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 9:05 am
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:07 am to dallastiger55
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Was paying $85 for home phone and 50mb and it's $120 for 1 GB and phone now
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fiber to my door
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Why not?
He's going to say you're wasting money on all the bandwidth you don't use...
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