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Japan - solo
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:17 pm
Going to book a trip to Japan . Myself. Just me.
What should I do ? Where should I go?
I want to hike up Mt Fuji and spend time in Kyoto
I plan to fly in Tuesday August 13. Quick trip … 4-5 days
What should I do ? Where should I go?
I want to hike up Mt Fuji and spend time in Kyoto
I plan to fly in Tuesday August 13. Quick trip … 4-5 days
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:38 pm to habz007
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I plan to fly in Tuesday August 13. Quick trip … 4-5 days
So 1 day Kyoto, 1 day Fuji, 1-2 days Tokyo?
Woof.
Fuji is going to take time. I did Hakone loop and thought I could do that in a day, and you can, but you just miss connections and you're toast. It's not pleasant. Getting to Fuji would take even more time, so that's probably two days.
I don't understand your time off where you'd be stuck with only 4-5 days? Can you not take advantage of labor day or something?
I had a short time myself, but you can fly out on a Saturday and back on a Sunday and get 6 full days, hence why 4-5 makes no sense to me.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:59 pm to habz007
That is a fun day trip out to Mt. Fuji. I didn’t get to hike it due to snow on it though. There are sulphuric springs out that way and I remember a big tramway gondola through the mountains somewhere nearby. The Great Buddha of Kamakura is pretty cool. Tokyo has enough to do itself. Royal Gardens, the tower, food of all kinds. Not sure about the fish market but Tsukiji used to be the biggest but I think it was moving or closing. The tuna auctions at 5:00 am and al the crazy seafood they have. Enjoy! Great place to visit.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:08 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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don't understand your time off where you'd be stuck with only 4-5 days?
I work 7 on and 7 off. 2 days for travel.
I’m ok with short trips. I’ll go back again a month later for another 5 days…
I’m in Vegas with wife for Labor Day weekend and LSU game
Edit: I’ll do two separate short trips. Two months. Not an issue.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 12:44 am
Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:51 am to habz007
In that case I'd pick one area for the first trip and another for the second.
So one trip will be Tokyo/Fuji.
Next would be Kyoto/Osaka/Nara
Or
Sapporo area
Or go straight out to the villages away from Tokyo and do the something like the Nakasendo trail and hit the small post towns.
But each trip would be self contained and you'd not waste hours getting between locations.
That makes sense to me.
So one trip will be Tokyo/Fuji.
Next would be Kyoto/Osaka/Nara
Or
Sapporo area
Or go straight out to the villages away from Tokyo and do the something like the Nakasendo trail and hit the small post towns.
But each trip would be self contained and you'd not waste hours getting between locations.
That makes sense to me.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 7:53 am
Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:58 am to habz007
Noted your dates.
The Sumo basho is in Tokyo during your dates. Between that, perhaps a baseball game, and Fuji, I'm pretty confident focusing on that area for trip #1 would be a good idea.
The Sumo basho is in Tokyo during your dates. Between that, perhaps a baseball game, and Fuji, I'm pretty confident focusing on that area for trip #1 would be a good idea.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:39 am to habz007
How do you plan to manage the time change to be in shape for Fuji? You’re likely going to land in the AM or early afternoon, and your foolish body is going to do all it can to take a nap. Just an hour, really, I swear.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:24 am to Teddy Ruxpin
I'm going to heavily second Teddy in that in a trip that short, you need to minimize your internal travel time. For example, on a short trip to Tokyo, the extreme ends of potential travel for me would be Hakone on one side and Nikko on the other. If you were hell bent on doing Fuji, I would say you wouldn't have time for Nikko (which is a shame). I would do Tokyo - Hakone - Fuji, which I wouldn't be thrilled about as it would be fairly breakneck, but still a good trip. Personally, if I were planning a short Japan trip centered in Tokyo (though I would personally rather center one around Kyoto), it would likely be to fly into Tokyo and immediately head to either Nikko or Hakone for a night, take the Shinkansen to the other for night, then finish the trip with a couple of nights in Tokyo.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:40 am to LemmyLives
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How do you plan to manage the time change to be in shape for Fuji? You’re likely going to land in the AM or early afternoon, and your foolish body is going to do all it can to take a nap. Just an hour, really, I swear.
yeah thats for sure. when I was doing overseas trips it would take me like a week to acclimate to the time change. jet lag can be a mfer.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:53 pm to LemmyLives
Everyone is different on that.
I do much better going to Asia than I do Europe. The complete flip in time just works for me.
Immigration at Haneda was efficient. On my trip I landed in Tokyo mid-day, and was on the shinkansen within an hour or 1.5 on my way to Kyoto (immigration, getting cash and Suica, train to Shinagawa, boarding). Had dinner and then went to bed.
It's possible, but definitely wouldn't try to attempt Kyoto, Fuji, and Tokyo in 4 days, especially since OP says he'll go back on second week trip later.
I do much better going to Asia than I do Europe. The complete flip in time just works for me.
Immigration at Haneda was efficient. On my trip I landed in Tokyo mid-day, and was on the shinkansen within an hour or 1.5 on my way to Kyoto (immigration, getting cash and Suica, train to Shinagawa, boarding). Had dinner and then went to bed.
It's possible, but definitely wouldn't try to attempt Kyoto, Fuji, and Tokyo in 4 days, especially since OP says he'll go back on second week trip later.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:24 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Thanks guys…
I work nights… I have to flip flop every week. It’s tough but I manage it.
I don’t care about Tokyo. I want to go to Kyoto. I absolutely 1000% want to do Fuji. That’s my only must.
But like I said, I don’t have to do it all trip 1. I’ll fly back for another 5 days down the road
I work nights… I have to flip flop every week. It’s tough but I manage it.
I don’t care about Tokyo. I want to go to Kyoto. I absolutely 1000% want to do Fuji. That’s my only must.
But like I said, I don’t have to do it all trip 1. I’ll fly back for another 5 days down the road
Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:01 pm to habz007
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Quick trip … 4-5 days
This is insanity for Japan
Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:03 pm to habz007
Visit a japanese onsen after mt fuji climb..
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:50 pm to habz007
quote:
I don’t care about Tokyo. I want to go to Kyoto. I absolutely 1000% want to do Fuji. That’s my only must. But like I said, I don’t have to do it all trip 1. I’ll fly back for another 5 days down the road
If you don’t care about Tokyo, go from Narita to Nikko, Nikko to Hakone, Hakone to your Fuji base, then swing back Narita to fly out.
Unless you do a really fricky flight itinerary, doing Kyoto and Fuji in a four day block is going to suck.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:00 pm to habz007
It's pretty popular to hate on Tokyo, but going to a city bigger than NYC with everything it offers but safer than Mayberry is something. 
If you end up doing Kyoto area on short schedule. You can can do a day from Kyoto where you train to Nara and then over to Osaka, then back to Kyoto and feel like you got a taste. That will give you time to do other things nearby.
My wife liked Osaka because it felt like ridiculous Japan metro than Tokyo.
If you end up doing Kyoto area on short schedule. You can can do a day from Kyoto where you train to Nara and then over to Osaka, then back to Kyoto and feel like you got a taste. That will give you time to do other things nearby.
My wife liked Osaka because it felt like ridiculous Japan metro than Tokyo.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:07 am to diat150
My strategy, which regardless of continent, which everyone disagrees with is simple. The moment I board, my watch gets switched to destination time. I only sleep (always in coach), if destination time is between about 10PM and 8AM. Otherwise, I keep myself awake.
Stay awake until at least 7PM destination, and I can flip time zones in about a day. In Japan, that means I choose to land in NRT around 2PM, 90 minute bus ride, unpack, and around 6-7PM, I can pass out and wake up at 330AM, and then I'm pretty much adjusted.
To me, if you land in Haneda before lunch, you are a far greater man than I if you can resist sleeping for another 8 hours.
But, I would not be in a condition to hike Fuji (or likely anything else), especially as when I went up involved leaving a camp (and that means tatami mats in a bunkhouse, which is perfectly fine) the next day at 3?AM to summit.
Stay awake until at least 7PM destination, and I can flip time zones in about a day. In Japan, that means I choose to land in NRT around 2PM, 90 minute bus ride, unpack, and around 6-7PM, I can pass out and wake up at 330AM, and then I'm pretty much adjusted.
To me, if you land in Haneda before lunch, you are a far greater man than I if you can resist sleeping for another 8 hours.
But, I would not be in a condition to hike Fuji (or likely anything else), especially as when I went up involved leaving a camp (and that means tatami mats in a bunkhouse, which is perfectly fine) the next day at 3?AM to summit.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:16 am to zippyputt
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sulphuric springs
Ah, the black hard boiled eggs with green yolks, which make you immortal or something. I remember that. They tasted fine, your smell of scent was essentially burned out by the time you to through the mini-trail to the place that sold them, IIRC.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 2:29 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
This is insanity for Japan
How many days would be appropriate?
My wife isn’t going to top of Fuji. This is for me. I’m gonna go back later. 4 + 4 days
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:56 am to habz007
quote:
How many days would be appropriate?
My wife isn’t going to top of Fuji. This is for me. I’m gonna go back later. 4 + 4 days
It just depends on what you're trying to accomplish. You could literally just spend four days in Kyoto. The core problem is that the most important thing to you on this trip is not only outside of the major cities, but off the major train line. That eats up time, and time is the thing you don't have.
My suggestion is to stop thinking about this as a "Japan" trip and think of it as a "Fuji" trip. Look into what you want to do at Mt. Fuji and see how long that is reasonably going to take you. Once you've figured that out, come back and we'll help you fill in the time you'll have left.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 2:31 pm to Joshjrn
Maybe this is just the Mt Fuji trip. I’m gonna get a taste and revisit down the line. Flying into Tokyo. I’ll have 5 full days on the ground. Taking bullet train to Kyoto. Taking train to Shin-Fuji the day before. I’ll stay there the night and do Fuji on day 3 after sunrise.
Thanks
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