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Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:51 am to
I guess I fall under Neo-Reformed, but I'm not a 5 point Calvinist.

Liberalism destroys everything it touches.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:01 am to
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I guess I fall under Neo-Reformed, but I'm not a 5 point Calvinist.

You'd probably enjoy this video. If you have time, let us know if you can relate to what is said.

This is a general intrigue thread as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:38 pm to
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On this broader topic, though, I just purchased the audiobook of Who is an Evangelical? by Thomas S. Kidd.

I'll post my thoughts about it when I'm done.


Who is an Evangelical was published in 2018 and, in some respects, it already feels outdated: it felt jarring to hear names such as Ravi Zacharias, Bill Hybels, and Jerry Falwell Jr. used without reference to their scandals.

Similarly, the discussion about evangelicalism and Donald Trump also seems to be outdated.

But I learned a lot. What the book does is examine the history of evangelicalism in light of some of its current controversies.

I did not know, for example, that Billy Graham met with Texas oilman Sid Richardson, and the two of them worked together to persuade Dwight Eisenhower to run for President. I had thought of the connection between the GOP and Religious Right as having really gelled in 1980 with the Reagan campaign, but it really began in 1952.

Just a few decades before, many evangelicals had followed the religious, liberal Democrat William Jennings Bryan. Evangelicals had been a big part of the Progressive Era, especially the push for Prohibition. The 1952 election changed everything.

Overall, I'd say that if you want to understand the historical context of evangelical struggles with issues such race and politics, this book is an excellent place to start. Thomas S. Kidd is an excellent author.
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Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:13 pm to
Sounds like there’s a lot of crossover between Kidd and Molly Worthen’s book Apostles of Reason, which I have regrettably reserved for audible walks. It’s too academic for that, but I get good snippets here and there.

Thanks for the review. I hope to provide some examples to compare.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 2/15/22 at 9:34 am to
Not necessarily related, but I just started Knowing God by Packer this week. Can't believe it took me this long to get to it.
Posted by ecb
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 9:57 am to
Did the liberals kill Christ or the conservatives?

Monarchs were liberal or conservative?

Which side did the liberals fight on during the American revolution?

This liberal/conservative narrative is a false flag distraction device invented by the pos politicians that God himself (Christ) warned us about..
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:06 am to
The distinction is far older than the “pos politicians” you have in mind. But, what’s your point?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:08 am to
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I just started Knowing God by Packer this week. Can't believe it took me this long to get to it.
Nor have I ever read it. Just start CS Lewis’s Miracles.
Posted by ecb
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 3:55 pm to
The liberal/Conservative argument has nothing to do with following the Gospels
Posted by bovine1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 4:46 pm to
I just started The Great Evangelical Disaster by Francis Schaeffer. I've always shyed away from his books because of the whole L'Abri commune thing but I read True Spirituality recently and found him to be a very Orthodox guy. I find his writing interesting and thought provoking.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 6:19 pm to
What's wrong with L'Abri?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86933 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 7:49 pm to
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The liberal/Conservative argument has nothing to do with following the Gospels



I think you're conflating liberal/orthodox (small o and the partial subject of OP) with liberal/conservative. While they're often aligned, it's not perfect.

The liberal/progressive Christianity discussion has everything to do with following the Gospels (or not, as the case may be)

Posted by bovine1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:14 pm to
There is nothing I know of wrong with L'Abri. I'm just saying my initial personal opinion of it was wrong.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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23884 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:04 pm to
Anyone read James KA Smith?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20871 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:19 pm to
I haven't read any of his books, just articles online, but I quit that when he basically said that he was in favor of gay marriage in the church.

He used to be orthodox, and now he isn't.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35124 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 10:05 am to
I'm sorry I'm just now seeing this thread. Bookmarking for closer read.

I just read Recovering Our Sanity by Michael Horton. New release. He has some misses imo but overall a good survey of where "Evangelicism" (such an amorphous and abused term) is and is going with a focus on political culture. Horton strays from his primary expertise (systematic theology and apologetics) imo with some of his messy political analysis. But it's still a good read.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 9:09 pm to
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Harry Emerson Fosdick.

Calling him a theological liberal is charitable.
It’s always amazed me, despite his heretical views, he wrote the lyrics to LINK ]God of Grace and Glory.

quote:


God of grace and God of glory,
On Thy people pour Thy power.
Crown Thine ancient church’s story, Bring her bud to glorious flower.
Grant us wisdom, grant us courage, For the facing of this hour,
For the facing of this hour.

Lo! the hosts of evil ’round us, Scorn Thy Christ,
assail His ways.
From the fears that long have bound us, Free our hearts to
faith and praise.
Grant us wisdom, grant us courage, For the living of these days,
For the living of these days.

Cure Thy children’s warring madness,
Bend our pride to Thy control. Shame our wanton selfish gladness, Rich in things and poor in soul.
Grant us wisdom, grant us courage, Lest we miss Thy kingdom’s goal,
Lest we miss Thy kingdom’s goal.

Set our feet on lofty places,
Gird our lives that they may be, Armored with all Christ-like graces, In the fight to set men free.
Grant us wisdom, grant us courage, That we fail not man nor Thee,
That we fail not man nor Thee.

Save us from weak resignation,
To the evils we deplore.
Let the search for Thy salvation,
Be our glory evermore.
Grant us wisdom, grant us courage, Serving Thee whom we adore,
Serving Thee whom we adore.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23884 posts
Posted on 3/6/22 at 12:52 pm to
I discovered that just last week while flipping through a hymnal! I love that one, and we sing it often!
This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 1:07 pm
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