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re: Dellenger: UAB targeting Trent Dilfer
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:48 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:48 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Many schools have tried to hire high school coaches. None have been successful.
Gus
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:05 pm to sunnydaze
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Gus
Read the thread. He was a college assistant before becoming a head coach.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:17 pm to multicampus
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None of them went from being the head coach at a high school directly to being the head coach of an FBS program.
The only one I can think of off top of my head that came close is John Grass. He went from HS to JSU as OC for one year before taking over when Bill Clark left for UAB. Plus, they were still FCS at the time too.
It hasn't been done at the FBS level that I can remember.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:30 pm to Prominentwon
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Art Briles as well
He went from HS to being an assistant at Texas Tech prior to his first collegiate HC job.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:33 pm to dallastiger55
Jeff Traylor went from HS to assistant jobs Texas, SMU, and Arkansas prior to being HC at UTSA.
Joey McGuire went from HS to being an assistant at Baylor from 2017-2021 prior to being a collegiate head coach.
Joey McGuire went from HS to being an assistant at Baylor from 2017-2021 prior to being a collegiate head coach.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:53 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Deion
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:07 pm to sunnydaze
I already mentioned him as the only example I can think of, although it's a small sample size and he's at FCS. There are probably several examples of this happening at the FCS level.
But yes, he would be one example.
But yes, he would be one example.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:35 pm to IAmNERD
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It hasn't been done at the FBS level that I can remember.
Paul Brown in the 40s.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:38 pm to AUCE05
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AUCE05
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He is a disaster in his personal life.
Dripping with irony.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:18 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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You may be right. The success rate may not be 0%. But I can't think of anyone. From Gerry Faust at Notre Dame to Tony Sanchez at UNLV, all failures.
The track record isn't great:
Tony Sanchez (UNLV) - 20-40
Bob Commings (Iowa) - 18-37
Gerry Faust (Notre Dame/Akron) - 73-79-4
Todd Dodge (North Texas) - 6-37
Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:32 pm to madmaxvol
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In the two seasons prior to his arrival, Lipscomb Academy was 3-19. He is on pace to finish his last two years at 26-1.
Not saying it isn’t a great accomplishment, because turnarounds like that are never easy…but I’ve seen first hand the amount of transfers that occur when a former well known pro athlete gets a head job at a school…and this was happening at public schools.
I’m willing to bet the makeup of the team changed quite a bit in those two years considering it’s some private school.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:01 pm to bamarep
This isn’t shocking If you listen to him on Russillo’s job
He clearly has been more than willing to flex his football mind.
With that said, he has run a really good high school program and been running elite 11 forever. He has to be extremely plugged in to recruiting circles and coaching circles.
He clearly has been more than willing to flex his football mind.
With that said, he has run a really good high school program and been running elite 11 forever. He has to be extremely plugged in to recruiting circles and coaching circles.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:12 pm to Dire Wolf
He could be great. Just like Deion could be great. But if I’m an AD, I’m not taking that gamble.
There are way too many good coaches out there.
There are way too many good coaches out there.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:04 pm to madmaxvol
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I'm tired of my kid's team getting blown out by Lipscomb Academy every year.
I like the hire and not a retread like Holtz.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:07 am to Dire Wolf
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This isn’t shocking If you listen to him on Russillo’s job He clearly has been more than willing to flex his football mind.
He definitely loves to name drop and hear himself talk, but it’s also a good listen when he’s on, so I kind of like him.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:02 am to jlnoles79
this is soyboy sportswriter revenge of the nerds fodder
plus IMO UAB is an awful job and anyone who takes it is an idiot, unless they're desperate
plus IMO UAB is an awful job and anyone who takes it is an idiot, unless they're desperate
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:06 am to madmaxvol
Carlton Flatt at Brentwood Academy somehow thought he was owed the Tennessee Vols job
and ETA: I ain't hatin on old Carlton.
and ETA: I ain't hatin on old Carlton.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 10:15 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:10 am to madmaxvol
UAB should just hire Jeff Monken and run the triple option, or talk Paul Johnson out of retirement and do the same
Georgia Tech Lite
Georgia Tech Lite
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:18 pm to Downeast12
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In the two seasons prior to his arrival, Lipscomb Academy was 3-19. He is on pace to finish his last two years at 26-1.
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Not saying it isn’t a great accomplishment, because turnarounds like that are never easy…but I’ve seen first hand the amount of transfers that occur when a former well known pro athlete gets a head job at a school…and this was happening at public schools.
I’m willing to bet the makeup of the team changed quite a bit in those two years considering it’s some private school.
Well...he's shown he knows how to recruit. Also, this is a school that has less than 500 High School students. Their one loss last year was by 8 points to Murfreesboro Oakland (a public school with just under 2000 students and a coach that is 187-19 over 15 years).
Still...your point is valid...if you are a private school close to Nashville and have a high profile coach and unlimited funds, it goes a long way in out-talenting your competition. 24/7 shows Lipscomb with 5 players in Tennessee's top 100.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:22 pm to jlnoles79
This post was edited on 12/19/22 at 8:38 am
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