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Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:04 pm to
Na, bro the difference in last years offense was over 90% the players.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:07 pm to
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No more evidence than you had when Brady was hired.

What’s on paper isn’t always the best option for deciding who is the best coach for the job. Maybe seeing him in action with the players and other coaches is the best qualifier.



Stop bringing up Brady he was the outlier.

Tell me what system Callaway runs. Tell me does he like to be balanced?

You can't even answer those questions but you want him as oc?



Thank God you aren't making decisions

And ftr, I'm fine with Callaway, but ignorant emotional based opinions get on my nerves.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:09 pm to
Like I said, I’ll give you 60% players, 40% coaching, but as far as what it did for the program as a whole, even if it only made a 2 game difference (which is debatable, but possible) retention of players, continuity of scheme, recruiting (had Brady stayed Caleb Williams would’ve just signed with us!)
I know those guys(Brady and Aranda) were gone no matter what, but now next year is almost a semi-rebuild year when this year was supposed to be the only rebuild year.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 6:10 pm
Posted by LSU CrayCray
Winter Haven
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:37 pm to
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Tell me what system Callaway runs. Tell me does he like to be balanced? You can't even answer those questions but you want him as oc?


You need to stop saying to everyone on here with an opinion different from yours, “Thank God you aren’t making the decisions.” bc aside from your own emotional ignorance—THAT gets on MY nerves.

If you read up on anything about Callaway, then you would know he runs a modern spread with a little air raid mixed in, and YES, he likes to be balanced. WTH???

This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 7:39 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:03 pm to
If anyone's interested here's Callaway's interview before the season with OTB:
OTB with Callaway
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37231 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:37 pm to
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If you read up on anything about Callaway, then you would know he runs a modern spread with a little air raid mixed in, and YES, he likes to be balanced.


Balance huh? Then why did he average less than 100 yards a game rushing 2 out of the 4 years?

Why did the offense go down over 100 yards per game when he took over?

Not air raid yet comes from the air raid and was oc under a legendary air raid guy?

His best year 2018, he averaged 121 yards rushing which is the same as we did this year and everyone bitxhed.

Last year he did rush for a lot more, 165 a game, but offense wasn't very good overall.

Again your opinion is based on your gut and emotion which is an ignorant reason to to hire someone.

Again I am fine with Callaway, especially as pgc, but I actually understand what we would be getting, not relying on my "gut"
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:23 pm to
Not surprising. All the word since he's been on staff has they seem to like him a lot. Hope he sticks around LSU's program for awhile he seems like a real winner for us. To think this guy was on our shadow staff.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:37 pm to
I had no idea he was Neil’s son. Or that he had been on Saban’s support staff.
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2912 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:10 pm to
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I'm just glad the article wasn't from LSU Odyssey


Why do you have a hard-on for that guy?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 7:43 am to
Maybe

If O wants to bet his job on it, go for it.
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:29 pm to
I think the Grimes / Callaway combo would be awesome.

OL / QB specialist in both.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:36 pm to
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His best year 2018, he averaged 121 yards rushing which is the same as we did this year and everyone bitxhed.


You realize that we only rushed for 167 per game last year, right? What was missing this season was the passing yards to the RB position. In an Air Raid offense, those check downs and passes in the flats to create positive matchups are considered part of the “run game.”

I would have absolutely no issue rushing for 120-150 per game if we are adding 50-100 yards of passing to the backs to go with them.
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 12:40 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:14 pm to
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You realize that we only rushed for 167 per game last year, right? What was missing this season was the passing yards to the RB position. In an Air Raid offense, those check downs and passes in the flats to create positive matchups are considered part of the “run game.”

I would have absolutely no issue rushing for 120-150 per game if we are adding 50-100 yards of passing to the backs to go with them.


Yes I do. But the main gripe against Harrell and this year's LSU team is we lacked balance....I am just pointing out Callaway is the same way.

I'm good with any of the ones i named in the OC stats thread.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:29 pm to
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only rushed for 167

Only? There's a huge difference between 121 and 167. 167 would have been 63rd this year. 121 was 109. Also, we averages 3.3 yards per attempt, which is putrid. We averaged 4.88 yards per attempt last year.

The biggest problem with our offense this year was we couldn't run when we needed to. It's really hard to run red zone offense if you can't run effectively. Similarly, it's hard to be good on 3rd down if you can't run.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:40 pm to
To give Callaway credit, his offense did improve rushing the lady two years, especially per rush. Went from 2.9 to 4.1 in 17 to 18. First two years he didn't run when a shite and averaged under 100 yards per game. Much better after that though.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33832 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:42 pm to
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Yes I do. But the main gripe against Harrell and this year's LSU team is we lacked balance....I am just pointing out Callaway is the same way.


If the backs are still making plays and gaining yards, then you have balance. Harrell is more of an old-school Air Raid guy with too little emphasis on the run game.

Dig a little deeper into those Samford stats. In 2018, his 4 and 7th ranked pass catchers? The top two running backs. That’s the kind of Air Raid balance that would work just fine here. That’s very similar to the offense that we ran last year.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33832 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:46 pm to
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Only? There's a huge difference between 121 and 167. 167 would have been 63rd this year. 121 was 109. Also, we averages 3.3 yards per attempt, which is putrid. We averaged 4.88 yards per attempt last year.


I’m was just pointing out that we didn’t exactly emphasize the run game last year, but when you combine the rush yard with the passing yards that CEH racked up, it makes up the difference in a balanced Air Raid attack.

We didn’t run as effectively this year AND we didn’t throw to the backs nearly enough.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:55 pm to
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Went from 2.9 to 4.1 in 17 to 18.

The only thing I care about is yards per attempt and can we run the football when we want to.

If it's first and goal at the 9, can we run for 5 or 6 yards? Can a run play be an option on 3rd and 4? Can we count on the running game to pick up 5 yards on first or second down. 3rd down efficiency was so good last year, because of how good we were running on 2nd and 10. This is a big part of why were were able to throw on 1st down so much. We were confident that even with an incompletion we could still get in 3rd and 5 or less because we could pick up 5, 6 or 7 yards with a run on second down.

I'm fine with calling passes to running backs out of the backfield extended hand offs, but you can't count on those types of plays for the entire game, and they might work once or twice in short yardage or th redzone, but they're probably not going to work all game. At some point, you're going to need to line up, and run the ball to succeed.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37231 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Harrell is more of an old-school Air Raid guy with too little emphasis on the run game.


Not really, you can't say that about Callaway and turn around and make this comment on Harrell.

This is only yea he didn't run the ball well so maybe talent and at unt he ran a shite ton.

At usc

2020
Pts-33.5
Total-416
Rushing-97, 3.2 per
Passing-319

2019
Pts-32.5
Total-454
Rushing-118, 3.9 per
Passing-335


At UNT

2018
Pts-34.8
Total- 460
Rushing-153, 4.3 per
Passing- 306

2017
Pts- 35.5
Total-455
Rushing-163, 4.4 per
Passing-291

2016-first year as OC
Pts- 26.8
Total-341
Rushing- 133.5, 4.1 per
Passing- 208

For reference in 2015 before GH got to UNT they ranked in bottom 25 in passing and total yards and points. By 2017...well you can see the improvement.

2019- after GH left, UNt dropped 4.2 pts per game, 42 yards per game.


Usc 2018-
Pts- 26
Total- 383
Rushing-133.5 @4.1
Passing-249.1
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33832 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 2:40 pm to
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Not really, you can't say that about Callaway and turn around and make this comment on Harrell.


What I know is a little context for those numbers at UNT. They ran a pro-style offense in 2015 and were really poor at it. None of their 3 QBs completed over 50% of their passes and they averaged 36 rush attempts per game. They were obviously better on the ground that through the air.

Considering how Harrell has run his offense at USC, all I see in those raw UNT stats is him taking the hand he was dealt and transitioning them to a pass-first attack over time. If he had stayed there longer, I have little doubt that the numbers would have evolved to look similar to what he’s doing now at USC.

Numbers alone don’t tell the whole story.
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 2:41 pm
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