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Leader Of Lugansk People’s Republic: “We Will Have A Referendum On Joining Russia”
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:56 am
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:56 am
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The Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR), one of the two breakaway Donbass territories recognized by Moscow as independent states in late February, is planning to hold a plebiscite on joining Russia “in the near future,” its leader has revealed.
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Speaking to journalists on Sunday, Leonid Pasechnik said “in the near future a referendum will be held in the republic, where people will exercise their absolutely constitutional right, and give their opinion with respect to joining Russia.”
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There has been no indication that the Kremlin would accept such a demand. Last month, President Valdimir Putin recognised the independence of the LPR, but almost all of the word considers it to still be part of Ukraine.
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Both the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) and the LPR declared independence in 2014 following a violent coup in Kiev. Both territories are predominantly Russian-speaking, and fears were growing at the time that nationalist elements in the new Ukrainian government would persecute ethnic minorities. Ukraine branded the two breakaway republics separatists and launched an ‘anti-terrorist operation,’ deploying its military to regain control, which resulted in a bloody war. The armed hostilities ended in February 2015 with the signing in the Belarusian capital of the so-called Minsk II peace agreement, brokered by Germany and France. The accord demanded that both the Ukrainian military and separatists cease fire and put an end to clashes, which had turned the region into a conflict zone. The document also called for major administrative and political reform in Ukraine as well as autonomy and local elections for the Donbass republics. However, the implementation of the agreement was stalled, with the two sides blaming each other for the lack of progress.
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:58 am to LuckyTiger
If they want to leave Ukraine let them go.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:11 am to mauser
Do people have the right of self determination?
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:13 am to LuckyTiger
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Do people have the right of self determination?
For the cretins in DC and on the OT thread clamoring about "democracy" everywhere else in the world, the answer is no.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:20 am to LuckyTiger
People only have the right for democracy if it best suits the Us or their business interests. Crimea voted something like 90 percent to join Russia only for the west to demonize and and sanction Russia after joining.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:22 am to LuckyTiger
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Do people have the right of self determination?
The Appalachian Republic sure hopes so.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:22 am to LuckyTiger
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Do people have the right of self determination?
Yes. It's in the U.N. Charter.
Too bad the U.N. Charter wasn't around in 1860.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:27 am to Smokeyone
What about St. George?
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:35 am to LuckyTiger
We and the EU heavily interfered with Brexit. What should've been heralded as democracy, was met with constant smear campaigns. The people who voted in favor of Brexit, were dehumanized.
Crimea, had their own vote. Democracy was on display as they voted to join Russia. We shite on their democracy and tried to punish them.
This LPR's upcoming vote will also be shite on by us.
Democracy means nothing. Democracy is only a buzzword we throw around to garner righteousness whenever someone pro-(our)establishment wins.
Crimea, had their own vote. Democracy was on display as they voted to join Russia. We shite on their democracy and tried to punish them.
This LPR's upcoming vote will also be shite on by us.
Democracy means nothing. Democracy is only a buzzword we throw around to garner righteousness whenever someone pro-(our)establishment wins.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:36 am to Plx1776
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Democracy is only a buzzword we throw around to garner righteousness
This cannot be upvoted enough.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:40 am to LuckyTiger
At some point the people of Lugansk will be labeled racist and canceled on social media.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:46 am to Plx1776
quote:Elections monitored by the Russian military right ?"Legitimate" elections after most pro Ukrainian citizens have fled, been killed & intimidated by Russian soldiers/ agents.
Crimea, had their own vote. Democracy was on display as they voted to join Russia. We shite on their democracy and tried to punish them.
Only if the people of Ukraine were allowed a referendum about joining the EU or NATO without outside interference.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:47 am to Plx1776
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 8:52 am
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:51 am to sugar71
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Elections monitored by the Russian military right ?"Legitimate" elections after most pro Ukrainian citizens have fled, been killed & intimidated by Russian soldiers/ agents.
Do you know the first thing about Crimea? It was a part of Russia from the early 1700's until the 1950's, when it was ceded overnight to Ukraine by Khruschev (without any input from Crimeans mind you) to celebrate the 300th anniversary of the Cossacks pledging fealty to the czar. 65-70% of Crimeans identified as Russians even prior to the 2014 conflict. Any referendum they had would have resulted in a decision to join Russia.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:54 am to sugar71
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Elections monitored by the Russian military right ?"Legitimate" elections after most pro Ukrainian citizens have fled, been killed & intimidated by Russian soldiers/ agents.
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sugar71
Ive pretty much disregarded everything you've posted for the past few years.
But when you post something with merit, I have to give you a
I know nothing about the details, but I agree with the sentiment regarding the 'legitimacy' of elections when there is unaccountable and suspicious authoritative control from the top down.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:56 am to sugar71
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Elections monitored by the Russian military right ?"Legitimate" elections after most pro Ukrainian citizens have fled, been killed & intimidated by Russian soldiers/ agents
More western lies
Posted on 3/27/22 at 9:13 am to LuckyTiger
Can we do the same for Texas please? That way we can restrict the hoardes of Californians plaguing our beautiful state
Posted on 3/27/22 at 10:23 am to sugar71
The Crimea never was Ukrainian. The original residents were "Turkmen" relocated 200 years ago so Russians could move in.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 10:40 am to LuckyTiger
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Do people have the right of self determination
The US kind of set a precedent in that 160 years or so ago.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 11:01 am to SCLibertarian
quote:Yes I do & there was no popular push for a referendum in Crimea before 2014 & your hero Putins invasion/ annexation. I understand
Do you know the first thing about Crimea? It was a part of Russia from the early 1700's until the 1950's, when it was ceded overnight to Ukraine by Khruschev (without any input from Crimeans mind you) to celebrate the 300th anniversary of the Cossacks pledging fealty to the czar. 65-70% of Crimeans identified as Russians even prior to the 2014 conflict. Any referendum
Camp Artek & the old Soviet nostalgia for Crimea,but Ukraine didn't take Crimea by force & it was gifted by the Soviet Union. I'm sure Crimeans preferred the freedom to speak out under Ukrainian rule.
I'm not shocked that you didn't mention that the majority of Ukrainians would like to be members of the EU & NATO as well. Putin & his sycophants like you can't seem to accept that.
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