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Governor Sarah got her School Choice bill - $7,500 per student vouchers for private.

Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:38 pm
And a minimum starting teacher salary of $50,000/year.

Universal school choice. Money goes with the student rather than to the public school district. $7,500 per student per year to use as private school tuition, or for homeschooling.

It will be interesting to see how this affects education in this state. The private schools need to start planning for expansion.

Also bans CRT in public schools.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:38 pm to
Pretty solid
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:40 pm to
Yeah, its kind of amazing, honestly.

Of course the teacher's unions hate it.

Passed both houses of the legislature. All she has to do is sign it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:43 pm to
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It will be interesting to see how this affects education in this state.
A means to Section 8 private schools. Hooray, another handout.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54084 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:44 pm to
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$7,500 per student vouchers for private.
and then they jacked up their tuition by 8,000
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
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6802 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:44 pm to
This will be a blueprint for freedom loving parents and states.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6802 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:47 pm to
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and then they jacked up their tuition by 8,000


Then others will pop up and take their place.
There is a market solution to almost everything, esp education, if not curtailed by the state.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:47 pm to
Private schools are cheap in Arkansas. $7500/year? That’s less than I paid for daycare in NC
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
10641 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:48 pm to
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Yeah, its kind of amazing, honestly.


Since the Arkansas Democratic Party’s collapse in the last two decades, a decent GOP governor can pass almost anything.

If there are two functioning parties, the governor of Arkansas is actually pretty weak constitutionally, unless they can effectively use the bully pulpit.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 4:31 am
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
4018 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:49 pm to
Most private schools have enrollment limits due to limited space. Additionally, $7500 doesn’t get you into many private schools.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8531 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:49 pm to
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And a minimum starting teacher salary of $50,000/year.

I’m curious about the mechanics of this. Would the state government supplement local counties or districts that fall short of that number? I know in Louisiana, pay rates vary from parish to parish. I think the means of raising those funds even varies from place to place. Is it similar in Arkansas?
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:56 pm to
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Private schools are cheap in Arkansas. $7500/year?


It isn't intended to be a full-tuition replacement. It will relieve some of the burden for those already using private schools. It will probably be a boon to cities like Little Rock where most upper and middle income people already use private schools.


The best private schools like Thaden School in Bentonville already index their tuition to increase affordability. $7,500 would mean the difference between a solidly middle class family being able to send a child to an excellent prep school or not.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:03 pm to
I actually googled it and yeah, it appears private schools are pretty cheap in Arkansas.

not an exhaustive list, but pretty good

Apart from the Delta and Little Rock city-proper, most areas have decent public school systems and people of all classes still use them.

NWA has at least 5 or 6 great public school districts and we have several charter schools already (the Waltons are big supporters of education choice)

Posted by DellTronJon
Member since Feb 2010
1652 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:08 pm to
Private school is just going to start costing $7500 more per student, and the product is going to get shittier. That is what happens anytime the government subsidizes anything.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
10302 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:10 pm to
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$7500 doesn’t get you into many private schools.


It makes that monthly payment more of a realistic scenario for a lot of middle class folks though.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:11 pm to
Wow that’s great. Is this money diverted from public school funding?
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26810 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:14 pm to
Most Arkansas schools can't afford to pay teachers near this much... Which only means the local millages will have to be jacked up unworldly amounts.

It also still does not fix the root problem of public schools, which is to teach the fundamentals instead of computer learning and all the bullshite "consultant" learning trends.

It still isn't going to fix the problem of basic reading and math in most schools.

It will also destroy what's left of the small rural districts, which will then merge with larger public districts and make those school even worse.

This is great if you live in a metro area and you are captured to your current district, and your kid can now go across town to the better district, but the state is largely rural and small towns, so that doesn't work for them.

The actual cause of the problems will still be exactly the same, and that's a complete lack of discipline from the teachers and administration and a complete lack of teaching basics instead of teaching "trends."

This really won't fix anything, but it will cause lots of chaos among fisyrcis and it will cost the taxpayers far far more.

Her father was an idiot when it came to education and so is she, and this is coming from someone who voted for her.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26810 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:16 pm to
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Private school is just going to start costing $7500 more per student, and the product is going to get shittier. That is what happens anytime the government subsidizes anything.


Exactly. Funny how people who are so against govm't handouts now premise them. This is unsustainable from a financial and school infrastructure standpoint. And now a bunch of really shitty teachers are going to make far more than they deserve for working 8 months a year.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40426 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:17 pm to
Private school tuition gonna go up by $7,500 then.

That’s how thus is going to work.

Affordability won’t improve neither will choice
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:29 pm to
Give her time, she will end up like Daddy Huckster, a RINO.

Daddy Huckster has moved his position based on the winds.

Daddy Huckster raised taxes and pardoned more criminals during his tenure than the 5 surrounding state governors COMBINED.
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