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ICBMs have never been tested with with live nuclear warheads ?
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:38 pm
Guy on Twitter says ICBMs are basically just long range missiles we haven't actually tested nuclear warheads on them, and we don't know if they actually work with the warheads on them realhumanschwab x
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:40 pm to bobBoxer
That's good to know I guess thanks.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:43 pm to bobBoxer
He technically has a point but enough of the guidance and systems have been tested to know that most of them are going to work. It’s also not one of those things where if the shite hits the fan you only shoot one. Even a 75% hit rate is going to be a world ending event.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:47 pm to bobBoxer
Well it's just a delivery system. We know the missiles work and we know the warheads work. I don't see what would interfere with them operating normally in conjunction.
PS - the missile must be pointy!
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:49 pm to bobBoxer
Just shoot them at random islands. That’s what we did in the 40s and it worked just fine
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:49 pm to AUFANATL
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Well it's just a delivery system. We know the missiles work and we know the warheads work. I don't see what would interfere with them operating normally in conjunction.
This
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:51 pm to bobBoxer
This is asinine. It most certainly have been tested. And retested. No, it hasn’t been tested with a live nuclear weapon but why does he think that’s a prerequisite to validating the program? They have proven nukes work. At most, they just have to validate the trigger sending a signal at the right time.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:54 pm to billjamin
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He technically has a point but enough of the guidance and systems have been tested to know that most of them are going to work. It’s also not one of those things where if the shite hits the fan you only shoot one. Even a 75% hit rate is going to be a world ending event
Each missile sub can hit 240 targets. We have 18 of them.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:55 pm to Volvagia
I recommend for anyone who can to go tour a retired missile site. We have a decommissioned Atlas silo on our property and it’s fricking insane the engineering. We’ve been lucky enough to have some of the engineers who worked on the program come through to check it out and it’s wild.
ETA side note. I know a guy who has one you can go diving in.
ETA side note. I know a guy who has one you can go diving in.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 12:01 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:28 am to Jim Rockford
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Operation Fishbowl detonated a warhead 250 miles above the earth. I think it's safe to assume the things would work as advertised. LINK
Not an icbm, it's an irbm. The pgm-17 thor is what turned into the incredibly reliable delta rocket... despite the fact it had 3 failures, while armed, during fishbowl.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:48 am to bobBoxer
That's right, but the conclusion is bullshite. Only intermediate range BM have been tested with live warheads. Trying to not start WW3, among other reasons. If a the shite we kicked out of the bomb bay of a B29 in Japan wasn't a dud, what makes you think the MIRVs wouldn't go boom? I would bet that that those test vehicles tested the triggers that initiate the nuclear blast, with telemetry all the way.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 12:52 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:49 am to Volvagia
This. Well said.
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This is asinine. It most certainly have been tested. And retested. No, it hasn’t been tested with a live nuclear weapon but why does he think that’s a prerequisite to validating the program? They have proven nukes work. At most, they just have to validate the trigger sending a signal at the right time.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:10 am to RedDirtPoke
test one on washington dc.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:19 am to bobBoxer
I was a member of a crew that launched the first two Minuteman III missiles from Vandenburg AFB in 1972. All three dummy warheads, on both missiles, hit their targets at an island in the Marshalls. The dummy warheads were designed to duplicate armed warheads in every way possible minus the nuclear material. I was told that all warheads hit within 100 yards of target. Once the missle is launched, the flight is controlled entirely by the preprogramed onboard computer including the deployment of warheads.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 6:21 am to billjamin
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I recommend for anyone who can to go tour a retired missile site. We have a decommissioned Atlas silo on our property and it’s fricking insane the engineering. We’ve been lucky enough to have some of the engineers who worked on the program come through to check it out and it’s wild.
That’s awesome! Is the interior launch control bunker a part of your property as well? Are you in like Arizona?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 6:28 am to bobBoxer
I have never took a hammer and tried to smash one of my toes with it. But I am pretty sure it was smash the frick out of one of them
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:51 am to bobBoxer
ICBMs are like throwing hand grenades. A hit in the general vicinity is acceptable accuracy.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:29 am to bobBoxer
I'm sure missles are tested with simulated mass of a warhead. They work.
So do Russia's.
So do Russia's.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:05 am to bobBoxer
Ballistic trajectory calculations are well known (see WW2 battleship projectile targeting) and today with inertial / GPS aiding even more so, nuclear trigger systems are constantly being tested and upgraded at Los Alamos and other labs (classified info), military strategic and tactical missile propulsion systems are mature and reliable, we can park a geostationary satellite within a few meters, all of these among other classified nav solutions for different and well defined supersonic aerodynamic objects.
The premise of this argument is bullshite.
The premise of this argument is bullshite.
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