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Scoped Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum 7.5” barrel accuracy…..
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:01 am
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:01 am
Neighbor tells me fantastic stories about his shooting prowess. More that once he stated that he has shot his scoped Redhawk at 100 yards on a sandbag and has grouped within an inch, sometimes bullet holes touching, I find this to be amazing if true. He also said he marked two of his cylinders to be sure which ones produced fliers outside of the 1” circle but within 2” at 100 yards. He is also using it as is, out of the box, with no trigger refinement.
Do any of you have this revolver and can achieve these results? Wow
Do any of you have this revolver and can achieve these results? Wow
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:35 am to Yewkindewit
I'd take that with a grain of salt and just say "ok, that's awesome".
We, as hunters and fishermen, tend to over exaggerate things.
My next comment would be "let me see you do it"
We, as hunters and fishermen, tend to over exaggerate things.
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More that once he stated that he has shot his scoped Redhawk at 100 yards on a sandbag and has grouped within an inch, sometimes bullet holes touching
My next comment would be "let me see you do it"
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:56 am to Yewkindewit
The revolver is plenty enough accurate to do that.
The shooter on the other hand........
Looks like it's easily done when guys take the time to fine tune their bullets and powder loads, etc.
From Ruger forums:
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With my favorite. 44 mag SBHs (iron sights) i can hit standard size clay birds on the 100 yard berm from a Weaver stance pretty regularly. From a seated backrest position, with a spotter, I can hit gallon milk jugs full of water at 200 yards.
The best I have ever done is hitting golf balls at 100 yards from seated backrest position. By hit I mean that there is either a lead smear on the ball or the coating on the ball is torn.
The fact is that almost anyone who will put in the time can do this. Most people think handguns are short range and never try. A good gun with a good load can wow the nonbelievers.
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So I recently had a troll-boy attack me for a comment I made on a YT video, where I mentioned I have 44 Magnum handloads with both 200 grain and 300 grain Hornady XTPs that shoot into 2" five-shot groups at 100 yards from a 7 1/2" Super Redhawk with a 2-7 scope off a good rest. After calling me a liar, he tried claiming physics, mechanical engineering, twist rates, ballistics, and yada yada yada prove that it is impossible. With all due respect, I know it IS possible since I've done it on numerous occasions. I've even shot a 1 5/8 inch group by firing all five from one chamber, which demonstrated that some chambers weren't as well aligned with the bore as others. I also recall, gun writer Ross Seyfried shot a group under an inch at 100 yards with a big bore revolver at one point (using all five chambers), but disremember if that was using open sights. August '94 Guns & Ammo, if anyone has a copy that's not packed away.
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No I haven't tried shooting groups ,but we have a 3" diameter plate at 100 yards that when I am focused I can ring pretty regular with iron sights. I do have a scoped Ruger super redhawk and will try some groups. I have no doubt about the ability of a good revolver to produce groups like you mention , for me it would be sight picture repeatability.
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I have Super Blackhawk Hunters in41, 44, and 45c. I have taken a good bit of time working up loads for the 3. More extensive with 44, to the point of 2" at a 100. Not so with the others. I stopped at 5" at 100
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I have made 2-3" groups @ 100 yds regularly with my Flattop .44 and my S&W 1950 .44 target.... usually with my favorite "hot" load of 12gr Blue Dot/250 Keith cast 1/20. At the time mentioned Ross and I were in a friendly word-of-honor contest (he being in CO and myself in VT) trying to achieve 1" groups
...and it was with iron sights. I managed one @ 1 1/4" but, only one. He, being a slightly better marksman than I, managed a few better. I always shot all chambers. I still have both guns.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 9:02 pm to Yewkindewit
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Do any of you have this revolver and can achieve these results?
I have the 45 Colt version with the 7.5” bbl and it shoots about 5 MOA with open sights with “Ruger only” hand loads. I don’t like shooting at a live deer past about 30 yards or a hog past 50 yards.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:33 pm to Yewkindewit
I have a smith and Wesson xvr in 460. Has an 8 inch barrel and is crazy accurate. Also a Taurus 454 casul w a 5 inch barrel. It’s pretty good too. Both have 3moa red dots. Mainly because the 460 has trashed two scopes.
300 grain hornady Xtp magnum bullets w 29 and 39 grains of H 110. Pretty stout loads. Killed one deer and one pig last year at about 50 yards.
Both, with red dots will hold a 2 inch group at 50 and a 4 inch group at 100.
Not saying an inch w a 44 is too much, I think the 460 could prob hold 1 to 2 inches w a scope, if it didn’t kill them.
Pistols are a whole other animal. Trigger is super important, solid hold is critical and not flinching is the key.
300 grain hornady Xtp magnum bullets w 29 and 39 grains of H 110. Pretty stout loads. Killed one deer and one pig last year at about 50 yards.
Both, with red dots will hold a 2 inch group at 50 and a 4 inch group at 100.
Not saying an inch w a 44 is too much, I think the 460 could prob hold 1 to 2 inches w a scope, if it didn’t kill them.
Pistols are a whole other animal. Trigger is super important, solid hold is critical and not flinching is the key.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:21 am to Yewkindewit
I have a 7.5" Ruger Redhawk, not the Super Redhawk. The Super has notches cut into the frame to attach Ruger's scope rings. I use a Weavere mount to attach a 2X Leupold on my Redhawk. Although it's been a really LOOONG time since I shot it, I'm sure I didn't shoot 1inch groups at 100 yards w/ it. That's really impressive shooting.I'd have to personally see him shoot those groups before believing it. Kinda reminds me of the old stories of Elmer Keith killing deer at 500 yards or so using a S&W 44 Mag w/ open sights. I deer hunt in Arkansas and will use it this year on the "Alternative Firearm" season that's replaced the muzzleloader season. It basically makes it legal to use any straight walled cartridge of 30 caliber or larger during the special season.
Be sure and let us know is you ever get to shoot w/ your neighbor.
Be sure and let us know is you ever get to shoot w/ your neighbor.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:00 am to Yewkindewit
I’d love to have one. Just wondering, why not go for a 44 lever or another rifle?
I’m guessing more guns is more better lol.
Also, those Ruger revolvers are pretty pricey. But very cool and reliable.
Are you going to hunt with it?
I’m guessing more guns is more better lol.
Also, those Ruger revolvers are pretty pricey. But very cool and reliable.
Are you going to hunt with it?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:36 am to HTX_Bengal
I have a S&W 629 with 7.5” barrel.
Only shot it a few times. Didn’t have much ammo and it was hard to find/very expensive when I did. I bought brass and loaded some up.
I have been wanting to shoot it out to 50 and 100yds to see how it does. May do that as soon as it cools off some.
Only shot it a few times. Didn’t have much ammo and it was hard to find/very expensive when I did. I bought brass and loaded some up.
I have been wanting to shoot it out to 50 and 100yds to see how it does. May do that as soon as it cools off some.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:35 pm to Yewkindewit
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Neighbor tells me ... [that] he has shot his scoped Redhawk at 100 yards on a sandbag and has grouped within an inch ....
I have a Super Redhawk .44 Mag. with a 7.5" barrel and a red dot sight, not a scope. It shoots great. I don't know how much is the gun versus how much is my shooting, but IIRC the best I've ever achieved (sitting, not on a sandbag) is about 3" or 4" at 50 yards for six shots, and that was like once, not typical. Maybe your neighbor is a much better shot than I am. Maybe your neighbor is full of it (seems more likely).
All that said, the Super Redhawk is a great gun, and really not too punishing to shoot. All that weight plus the rubber grip soaks up a lot. Every now and then I want to go looking for one in .480 Ruger--not for any good reason, just because it intrigues me!
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:21 pm to Yewkindewit
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Do any of you have this revolver and can achieve these results? Wow
My cousin told me he could hit a milk cap at 100yds with his but I never saw it or shot it. I wouldn't be surprised though.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:02 pm to Yewkindewit
41 light years easier to shoot….
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:32 am to Yewkindewit
Often, when folks say a gun "will shoot a __ size group" that means they have shot 40 groups and one or two of them was in that range.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 8:23 am to Yewkindewit
Sure, if Old Mike Cannon can get the bad guys at 100 yds with a snub nose .38 special, no reason a 7.5 inch scoped Redhawk wouldn't do it ..
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:28 pm to Yewkindewit
With good target ammo, a scope, and shooting single action from a bench, I see no reason why 100 or 200 yards would be a problem for 44mag out of a long barrel.
Now, shooting double action without a bench? Highly doubtful anyone but the elite shooters could do that very consistently.
Now, shooting double action without a bench? Highly doubtful anyone but the elite shooters could do that very consistently.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:30 pm to NOLATiger163
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Every now and then I want to go looking for one in .480 Ruger-
Yeah I get this feeling sometimes. I say “why don’t I try a 454 Casull?” Then I shoot my 44 mag and remember that it’s big (and expensive) enough.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:51 pm to biglego
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Every now and then I want to go looking for one in .480 Ruger-
Yeah I get this feeling sometimes. I say “why don’t I try a 454 Casull?” Then I shoot my 44 mag and remember that it’s big (and expensive) enough.
The .480 Ruger would have made more sense when I used to reload. For plinking with the .44 Super Redhawk I'd load 240 gr cast lead semi-wadcutters to 1000 ft/s, which was very mild-shooting and plenty accurate in that gun. (As a comparison, a 'full power' military .45 Auto load is a 230 gr bullet at 855 ft/s, which has 30% less energy.) I figure with the right handloads, the .480 Ruger would be the Great Dane of revolvers: big and notable looking but actually pretty mild to actually handle.
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