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Mike Johnson is a weak Speaker and should be replaced

Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:45 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51100 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:45 am
Texas Tribune (a left-leaning rag)

The House passes a three-year extension of the ACA subsidies, which, if you recall, Republicans held the line to not include in the spending bill which shut down the federal government. "Great!" you might say. Johnson kept the team focused and on point.

However, that was then. Now? They've sent an ACA extension bill to the Senate. 17 Republicans voted with 100% of Dems to pass this bill.

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Twenty-two other Republicans from Texas voted against the extension, while two — Reps. Michael McCaul and Wesley Hunt — did not vote. All 12 Texas Democrats voted in favor. The bill, which reached the floor against the wishes of House Republican leadership, passed on a 230-196 vote.
Do you think that would have happened under Tip O'Neil to Dems it or to Newt Gingrich for Republicans? No. They both knew how to rally the troops to hold together.



Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5372 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:49 am to
My take is that when he is weak, it is selective. He is serving something other than the people he represents. He is not the only republican that is doing this.


This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 10:52 am
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25992 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:54 am to
Trump really seems to like MJ but I don't know if it is a front because he kind of has to like him.. I can't tell
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6625 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:55 am to
I know people that have known him for most of his life. And they love the guy. They say he's one of the most genuinely good people they know. And I've voted for him almost every time he's run. And when he got the speaker's gavel he was gung ho and saying everything I wanted to hear.

Then the FBI showed up at Cypress Baptist Church in force to investigate an envelope full of powder that went to his and the wife's ministry thing. And after that, he was a different guy. I didn't vote for him this last time because I think they compromised him. I don't trust him now.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14995 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:58 am to
The lowest number of Democrats in the House in the 1980s was 243 to R's 192.

Do you really think they are facing the same situation?

I have problems with Johnson, but let's not be delusional about the situation.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35367 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:00 am to
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Do you think that would have happened under Tip O'Neil to Dems it or to Newt Gingrich for Republicans?

No. But of course times were quite a bit different and there weren’t the overly vocal and dramatic “factions” within the Republican Party, as there is now, that are willing to just as well let the Democrats get everything they want if they don’t get something they want.

Also, Gingrich is a pretty high profile pundit/media commentator……surely he’s extensively criticized Johnson, given the stark differences that you referenced in their tenures. But if he has not done so, I’d be a little curious as to why.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41712 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:02 am to
I think these subsidies are something Johnson and Republicans are going to have to flex on.....it sucks but something like 25 million people are under the ACA now. If these premiums skyrocket, people will be pissed and republicans will be blamed even though this shite show is the Democrats fault. If these subsidies don't get extended, Republicans are going to get wrecked in the midterms.

This isn't the hill to die on and they are going to have to choke this one down and live to fight another day.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26504 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:02 am to
And the other republicans didn't vote for it only because their vote wasn't needed.

100% of people in congress are corrupt. If I am wrong I am only off by 1 or 2 people and I am probably not wrong.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
670 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:02 am to
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He is serving something other than the people he represents.
Just look at who funds their campaigns. This will always reveal the reason behind their actions. Congressmen are like drug dealers who get rich from selling subsidies supplied by taxpayers.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
21351 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:02 am to
MAGA republicans still can’t internalize that the GOP is a coalition party.

The vast majority of GOP politicians are chosen and controlled by GOPe globalists who want basically what the DNC wants.

The majority of the GOP base are MAGA/AF nationalists who get convinced every election cycle that their local GOPe rep/senator/etc wants what they want but are then perpetually confounded when they get to DC and vote for what their globalist donors wants or just stonewall.

Johnson isn’t soft. Hes running interference for the GOP globalist donors so they can run out the clock on what all the power players in DC agree is the greatest threat to them: Trump/MAGA/AF control of FedGov.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
670 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:09 am to
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This isn't the hill to die on and they are going to have to choke this one down and live to fight another day.
At some point, they have to find a hill, because there have been several other hills that they ignored. I would love to see them fight for something that doesn’t fleece us while we are the ones actually living for the “other day”.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35367 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:12 am to
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Johnson isn’t soft. Hes running interference for the GOP globalist donors so they can run out the clock on what all the power players in DC agree is the greatest threat to them: Trump/MAGA/AF control of FedGov.

And exactly why wouldn’t Trump be pushing back on that and using his social media pulpit to, at a minimum, make subtle references to that particular scenario (if it were true of course, and I’m not out of hand saying it isn’t)?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35367 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:14 am to
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I think these subsidies are something Johnson and Republicans are going to have to flex on.....it sucks but something like 25 million people are under the ACA now. If these premiums skyrocket, people will be pissed and republicans will be blamed even though this shite show is the Democrats fault. If these subsidies don't get extended, Republicans are going to get wrecked in the midterms.

This isn't the hill to die on and they are going to have to choke this one down and live to fight another day.

Now THAT’S a pragmatic, rational take on the subject.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
21351 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:15 am to
Why did he accept Pence and a GOPe cabinet in 2016?

He can’t operate without a negotiated uneasy truce with the GOPe.

If he wants his cabinet and picks approved he needs them.

He wanted the BBB passed, couldn’t happen without them.

They don’t like each other but they have to make deals at a certain level to maintain the coalition government.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41712 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:23 am to
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At some point, they have to find a hill, because there have been several other hills that they ignored. I would love to see them fight for something that doesn’t fleece us while we are the ones actually living for the “other day”.


I wouldn't disagree with you but there is going to have to be some solution on healthcare.....I don't know what that looks like but I think Johnson, Trump and the rest of the leadership know that politically this will cost them.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54056 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:25 am to
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think these subsidies are something Johnson and Republicans are going to have to flex on.....it sucks but something like 25 million people are under the ACA now. If these premiums skyrocket, people will be pissed and republicans will be blamed


This is exactly why you don't pass an extension and get a new idea. Republicans will be blamed no matter what

Johnson and a lot of these Republicans suck
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35367 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:25 am to
Maybe I misinterpreted you. Because I tend to agree with the proposition that you’ve stated there.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14013 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:26 am to
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I think these subsidies are something Johnson and Republicans are going to have to flex on.....it sucks but something like 25 million people are under the ACA now. If these premiums skyrocket, people will be pissed and republicans will be blamed even though this shite show is the Democrats fault. If these subsidies don't get extended, Republicans are going to get wrecked in the midterms.

This isn't the hill to die on and they are going to have to choke this one down and live to fight another day.

This is the truth. At least someone is being reasonable here.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17199 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:30 am to
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Trump really seems to like MJ but I don't know if it is a front because he kind of has to like him.. I can't tell


Mike is Trump’s puppet. He does as he’s told.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18790 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:34 am to
I hate it like the devil but you are right. The Republicans now have time to come up with an actually affordable health care plan for people. We have stumbled before, now get it done.

The goal should be to increase preventative care, increase the number of qualified health providers and allow large pools of businesses, individuals, clubs etc to negotiate across state lines. Use market solutions where practicable.

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