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It’s January 2020 & someone tells you Indiana will a natty before LSU wins another one
Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:41 am
Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:41 am
What would you have said or done? I would have laughed boisterously.
My, how times have changed. I expected so much more after 2019. I thought we would be great for years to come. I definitely didn’t expect our program to implode.
I’m glad we have Lane and can right the ship finally.
My, how times have changed. I expected so much more after 2019. I thought we would be great for years to come. I definitely didn’t expect our program to implode.
I’m glad we have Lane and can right the ship finally.
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 12:42 am
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 1:05 am to cbree88
I’m assuming O went off the rails after the taste of success (which he did) and we hired a conman after firing him (which we did)
Posted on 1/20/26 at 1:13 am to cbree88
Imagine telling a a Notre Dame fan after they won their last national championship that Indiana would win one before they won their next.
That was in 1988.
That was in 1988.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:10 am to cbree88
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It’s January 2020 & someone tells you Indiana will a natty before LSU wins another one
It’s 2000 and someone tells you a non-SEC basketball school will win the football national championship in the next 25 years.
Your reaction:
Posted on 1/20/26 at 6:03 am to cbree88
Upvote for the use of “boisterously”.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 6:24 am to cbree88
LSU 2027 natty baby! Why not? Let’s ride
Posted on 1/20/26 at 7:31 am to cbree88
I’d have said “ hey bud , save me a toke!” Two years ago IU is 3-9 and DAL in Big Ten. This morning analysts are discussing their place in history ! No reason we can’t get the top from where we are starting now !
Posted on 1/20/26 at 7:47 am to cattus
It's ironic they had Marcus Freeman as the guest analyst yesterday. I guess ESPN figured that's the closest ND is likely to come to a national championship game.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:05 am to OKtiger
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I’m assuming O went off the rails after the taste of success (which he did) and we hired a conman after firing him (which we did)
O's problem was after 2019 he thought he was a better coach than he actually was. The secret to his success was how he convinced Alleva to hire him in the first place, recruit, oversee things, but get the hell out of the way when it came to the in-game/on-field strategy. His ego got in the way and he thought he would wow the CFB world with his 80's Miami/00's USC combination defense. It didn't. It was a disaster than tanked the program.
Kelly was a good hire...at the wrong time in college sports. He, wrongly, assumed LSU just recruited itself and that, combined with his coaching ability, would be enough to get him over the hump for a NC. But the "world" changed. LSU didn't just recruit itself and building teams like he did at ND wasn't going to work in this era. He wasn't proactive and placed too much reliance on HS recruiting. It's why he didn't reload with immediate starters on defense in 2023, and the desire to get Underwood was the reason he put an incompetent offensive staff in charge...only to learn that the old hard work and longtime relationship method of recruiting was outdated. Recruiting was just contract negotiations. He figured that out ahead of 2025. Unfortunately, he still had the terrible offensive staff that he couldn't overcome.
Maybe in an alternate universe he acknowledges his past miscalculations and puts together a great staff/team for 2026. But when you are called out on your shortcomings you can't be an a-hole about it. He was...and that's why he had no support from the decision makers. You can be wrong. And you can be an a-hole. But you can be both wrong AND an a-hole.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:17 am to cbree88
I wouldn't have believed it but I knew we were gonna take a step back. Not as bad as we have but certainly didn’t think we’d compete the following year. Also I’m glad we have Lane but at this time we have no idea if he will right the ship or not. He appears to be putting the pieces in place but that’s all we know right now.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:20 am to OKtiger
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we hired a conman after firing him
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, you haven’t fired him yet
Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:04 pm to cbree88
If someone in January 2020 told me that Indiana would win a national championship before LSU won another one, I would’ve had two ways to evaluate that statement.
First, it would imply that a historically basketball-oriented school managed to build a dominant football program in a conference typically controlled by one, maybe two teams. That would suggest Indiana began recruiting at an elite level, and that the school hired a coach who was arguably second only to Nick Saban. Because even with talent, building a high-end football product at a basketball school with limited resources would be wildly impressive. From any angle, it would signal that the college football “arms race” had finally leveled out and that competitive parity had returned.
Second, I would have to question how far LSU, and the rest of college football, would have fallen off. How could a program like Indiana climb from the 8-5 tier all the way to national championship level before LSU got back? In 2020, there was simply no scenario where I would’ve believed Indiana could be capable of playing football at that level.
In reality, what we’re seeing today is a mix of both dynamics. I genuinely believe Cignetti is one of the most impressive coaches in the sport right now, and I also think NIL and profit-sharing have distracted or reshaped priorities at several major programs. It’s creating an environment where the formula for winning changes constantly. Personally, I think that’s a good thing. Sustained dynasties are going to be much harder to maintain in the current landscape of college athletics.
First, it would imply that a historically basketball-oriented school managed to build a dominant football program in a conference typically controlled by one, maybe two teams. That would suggest Indiana began recruiting at an elite level, and that the school hired a coach who was arguably second only to Nick Saban. Because even with talent, building a high-end football product at a basketball school with limited resources would be wildly impressive. From any angle, it would signal that the college football “arms race” had finally leveled out and that competitive parity had returned.
Second, I would have to question how far LSU, and the rest of college football, would have fallen off. How could a program like Indiana climb from the 8-5 tier all the way to national championship level before LSU got back? In 2020, there was simply no scenario where I would’ve believed Indiana could be capable of playing football at that level.
In reality, what we’re seeing today is a mix of both dynamics. I genuinely believe Cignetti is one of the most impressive coaches in the sport right now, and I also think NIL and profit-sharing have distracted or reshaped priorities at several major programs. It’s creating an environment where the formula for winning changes constantly. Personally, I think that’s a good thing. Sustained dynasties are going to be much harder to maintain in the current landscape of college athletics.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:21 pm to cbree88
These days any school can buy a championship
Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:25 pm to cbree88
“frick, O blows this thing up doesn’t he?”
Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:36 pm to Barkbowwow
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It's ironic they had Marcus Freeman as the guest analyst yesterday. I guess ESPN figured that's the closest ND is likely to come to a national championship game.
They literally played in the National Championship game last year
Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:53 pm to DustyDinkleman
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It’s 2000 and someone tells you a non-SEC basketball school will win the football national championship in the next 25 years
Options would have been UCONN, Syracuse, Duke, UNC, NC State, Kansas, Indiana, Michigan State, UCLA, Arizona
I would have bought Michigan State or UCLA. Even NC State at a stretch (that would’ve been the midst of the Phillip Rivers years). The others would be laughably improbable
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