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LSU basketball path forward
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:13 pm
The path forward is pretty clear. Move on from McMahon, but at what financial cost does it make sense, given his deal doesn't run out until 2029. Clearly, the program will continue to struggle with him at the helm. Once we inevitably move on from McMahon, we really have to get the right guy. Otherwise it could be the same situation all over again, but just with a new coach. We really did not realize what we had with Will Wade. I think half the fanbase did realize this, and there was always in the background some hope there would be a reunion down the road (since he was literally down the road). It is unfortunate state of affairs for LSU men's basketball program.
But I do think supporting CMM is our best option for now and then if program continues to underperform and if makes sense from a buyout perspective, we really need to hone in on the right guy for LSU. It is kinda of catch 22 where we are stuck with this coach but we also do have 3 years to really do our due diligence to find the best guy out there, which does work in our favor.
But I do think supporting CMM is our best option for now and then if program continues to underperform and if makes sense from a buyout perspective, we really need to hone in on the right guy for LSU. It is kinda of catch 22 where we are stuck with this coach but we also do have 3 years to really do our due diligence to find the best guy out there, which does work in our favor.
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:16 pm to helllo_heisman002
Retard alert
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:18 pm to helllo_heisman002
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But I do think supporting CMM is our best option for now
Nah I’m good. In fact, I hope he loses in blowout fashion for the rest of his games.
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then if program continues to underperform
It will.
I see the talking points are out “doesn’t make sense to pay the buyout!!!”
Who is paying you to post such drivel?
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:21 pm to helllo_heisman002
I'd love to meet these mystery basketball boosters that are willing to put up $25-30 million to turn the men's program around. I'm not sure they exist. It sure isn't going to be the fans putting up money.
$10 million to buy out McMahon and staff
$10 million plus for new staff
$5-10 million to buy a decent roster.
$10 million to buy out McMahon and staff
$10 million plus for new staff
$5-10 million to buy a decent roster.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:21 pm to helllo_heisman002
This is so stupid. No reasonable person thinks he should be back another year the program is dead
The buyout isn’t even that bad and bringing in someone exciting could easily make up for some of the cost of the buyout
The buyout isn’t even that bad and bringing in someone exciting could easily make up for some of the cost of the buyout
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:23 pm to The Pirate King
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I'd love to meet these mystery basketball boosters that are willing to put up $25-30 million to turn the men's program around. I'm not sure they exist. It sure isn't going to be the fans putting up money. $10 million to buy out McMahon and staff $10 million plus for new staff $5-10 million to buy a decent roster.
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:24 pm to LakeSide Lovin
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The buyout isn’t even that bad
$25-30 million to make the change. You chipping in?
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:25 pm to The Pirate King
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$25-30 million to make the change. You chipping in?
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:27 pm to The Pirate King
quote:is this really the best argument you have?
$25-30 million to make the change. You chipping in?
He will be fired this year whether you like it or not
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:27 pm to LakeSide Lovin
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The buyout isn’t even that bad and bringing in some exciting could easily make of for some of the cost of the buyout
And his buyout can be spread out through 28-29.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:30 pm to LakeSide Lovin
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is this really the best argument
I mean, yeah. Major college sports is all about dollars and cents. Going deep in the hole and subsidizing another sports program with no guarantee of return is terrible management of the athletic department. The next hire could be a good on-court success and still be a financial disaster.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:37 pm to The Hurricane
And the buyout will be spread out. When he's terminated next month, LSU will owe him around $8 million to be paid off through the end of June in 2029.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:39 pm to helllo_heisman002
And, as predicted, here come the illogical "keep McMahon because it's too expensive to fire him" posts. Seriously, are there "influencers" being paid to post on message board, social media, to pretend to support this guy like you see in political campaigns? NO OTHER COACH who has accomplished so little has gotten so much "support" to be retained 3 years after his expiration date.
The better question is "at what financial cost does it make sense" to NOT make a change. Again:
By keeping McMahon LSU is incurring significant lost opportunity costs. Lost opportunity to potentially find a good coach. Lost opportunity to improve the program. Lost opportunity to sell more "product" (i.e ticket, concessions, and other ancillary products associated with the program) ALL for very little "savings".
If this is your line of thinking then you can't call yourself an LSU basketball fan. If you were to say "I'm not really a basketball fan and couldn't care less about the program" then while I might disagree with this position, at least I could understand the logic behind it. But you can't be a basketball fan AND think any of the absurdity posted by the OP makes any sense whatsoever.
The better question is "at what financial cost does it make sense" to NOT make a change. Again:
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MM is getting paid for next season whether he coaches or not. So that means he either gets paid ~$3M to coach...or ~$2M to NOT coach. 2 of his assistants are on expiring contracts. That means whether he returns or not, LSU is going to have to either renew those contracts or hire new assistant coaches.
And it's not like the marketplace is going to stay stagnant to allow LSU to "ride out" this mistake in a cost-effective manner. The basketball coaching market it going to continue to inflate. The HC that might cost you $4M next season is going to cost $4.5M if you hire him the year after that. The NIL need for basketball is going to continue to inflate. This year's $7M roster will cost $9M next season, and so on. The cost for football is ALSO going to continue to inflate. The players are going to continue to get more expensive. Assistant coaches are going to get more expensive.
By keeping McMahon LSU is incurring significant lost opportunity costs. Lost opportunity to potentially find a good coach. Lost opportunity to improve the program. Lost opportunity to sell more "product" (i.e ticket, concessions, and other ancillary products associated with the program) ALL for very little "savings".
If this is your line of thinking then you can't call yourself an LSU basketball fan. If you were to say "I'm not really a basketball fan and couldn't care less about the program" then while I might disagree with this position, at least I could understand the logic behind it. But you can't be a basketball fan AND think any of the absurdity posted by the OP makes any sense whatsoever.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:40 pm to The Pirate King
quote:why do you care the money is there your boy is about to be shite canned it’s time to accept it
I mean, yeah. Major college sports is all about dollars and cents. Going deep in the hole and subsidizing another sports program with no guarantee of return is terrible management of the athletic department. The next hire could be a good on-court success and still be a financial disaster.
Crying about money won’t save him
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:49 pm to The Pirate King
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I mean, yeah. Major college sports is all about dollars and cents. Going deep in the hole and subsidizing another sports program with no guarantee of return is terrible management of the athletic department. The next hire could be a good on-court success and still be a financial disaster.
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:20 pm to The Pirate King
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I'd love to meet these mystery basketball boosters that are willing to put up $25-30 million to turn the men's program around. I'm not sure they exist. It sure isn't going to be the fans putting up money.
$10 million to buy out McMahon and staff
$10 million plus for new staff
$5-10 million to buy a decent roster.
Since we are going to have a discussion, lets use real (approximate) numbers.
The base salary for the final 3 years of MM's deal is ~$8.1M. The buyout would be 80% of that total or ~$6.5M. spread out over three years. That comes out to about $2.2M annually
David Patrick's contract runs for another 2 years after this season. The total value of those 2 years would be $1.325M. If he's fired LSU owes 80% of that amount, or $1,060,000...spread out over two years. So $530,000 annually
Jalen Courtney's contract runs through the end of next year. His annualy salary is $425k. IIf he's fired LSU owes 80% of that amount, or $340k payable by the end of next year's term.
Ronald Dupree's contract runs for another 2 years after this season. The total value of those 2 years would be $815k. If he's fired LSU owes 90% of that amount, or $733,500...spread out over two years. So $366,750 annually.
The other 2 assistants are on expiring contracts this year.
What would LSU owe in buyouts NEXT YEAR? Approximately $3.5M. Or let's even conservative because there is probably other compensation there and say $4.0M...NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE to the $10M you proposed LSU would have to pay in "immediate" buyout money.
So what might NEXT YEAR'S cost with a new staff.
$4.0M to pay the former staff to go away
$3.5M for HC (let's not even bring up the W word)
$1.5M for staff
$4M for NIL (LSU will get ~ $4M in revenue share)
That comes out to about $12M for next season. Or lets even be bullish an call it $15M
Is avoiding paying a (declining) ~$3M more per year to a fired staff for 3 more years worth continuing to have the worst basketball program in the SEC for the next three seasons? Particularly when the cost of hiring a new staff and NIL will be multiple millions HIGHER in 3 years than it is today?
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:30 pm to Circle K Beggar
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Nah I’m good. In fact, I hope he loses in blowout fashion for the rest of his games.
I actually got a nice kick of the Arky guards playing rock paper scissors for free throws
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:03 pm to The Pirate King
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I'd love to meet these mystery basketball boosters that are willing to put up $25-30 million to turn the men's program around. I'm not sure they exist. It sure isn't going to be the fans putting up money.
$10 million to buy out McMahon and staff
$10 million plus for new staff
$5-10 million to buy a decent roster.
2 of those 3 expenses are happening even if you keep McMahon. The only new expense to fire him is about $6.5M for McMahon's buyout, plus whatever it costs to buyout the assistants that won't be retained. His contract also has an offset clause, so the $6.5M could end up being less if he gets another coaching gig
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:24 pm to Alt26
I don’t think it changes your point any, but McMahons salary for the remaining 3 years would be 9.3 million, making his buyout a little under 7.5 million or about 2.5 million a year.
I missed the base salary and only counted the supplemental compensation before, which is why I point it out.
I missed the base salary and only counted the supplemental compensation before, which is why I point it out.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:38 pm to helllo_heisman002
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