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NYT pollster...MAGA Was Supposed to Be Antiwar. Nope.

Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:23 pm
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:23 pm
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President Trump, who once said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any supporters, is now confronting a twist on that boast: What if, instead, he bombed Tehran?

The message coming from some of the most prominent MAGA voices is clear. Representative Lauren Boebert, former Representative Matt Gaetz and the commentators Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson all have indicated that going to war with Iran was at odds with Mr. Trump’s “America first” platform.


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The data, however, says something different. A recent CBS News poll found that 92 percent of MAGA Republicans expressed support for military action against Iran, compared with only 70 percent of non-MAGA Republicans.

This might come as a surprise, given that Mr. Trump returned to office pledging to avoid forever wars. But it tells me that America first means pretty much whatever he says it means — and that it might be time to ditch some of our common assumptions about Republicans.

We’ve come to think of non-MAGA Republicans as the (increasingly endangered) species of voters who may have pulled the lever for Mr. Trump, but still yearn for Reagan-style Republicanism based on the “three-legged stool” of cultural conservatism, free-market capitalism and hawkish national defense. We’ve come to think of MAGA Republicans as voters who prefer the president’s populist pitch and who bemoan endless wars.

Seen through the lens of the war with Iran, the throwback Republicans would presumably be the hawks calling for the destruction of the Iranian regime and its military capabilities, while MAGA Republicans would stand aghast. Certainly, quite a few prominent MAGA-aligned opinionators have adopted such a view.

But like the CBS News poll, my polling shows that MAGA thinks Mr. Trump got it right when it comes to Iran. When I separate Republican respondents on whether they think of themselves as a Trump supporter or a Republican Party supporter first, I find that more than nine in 10 Trump-first Republicans support the Iran strikes, compared with only 72 percent of party-first Republicans. When explicitly asked if the war counts as an America-first policy, only 9 percent of Mr. Trump’s most loyal backers say it does not.

There were signs of this even before the current war. Last year, in the middle of the 12-day war in which Israel and the United States struck targets in Iran, my polling showed that Trump-first Republicans were overwhelmingly in favor of joining Israel’s efforts to degrade, if not destroy, Iran’s ability to develop a nuclear weapon. They were significantly more open to bombing Iran than party-first Republicans.

As recently as the start of the year, when voters were asked how they felt about a hypothetical strike on Iran, Trump-first Republicans were more supportive of such a move.

In January, my polling asked Republicans which statement they agreed with more: that Mr. Trump “is right to focus on international threats, such as Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and Iran” or that he “is focusing too much on global affairs and should focus more on issues in the U.S.” While just over half (52 percent) of party-first Republicans said the president was right to focus on overseas threats, nearly three-quarters (74 percent) of Trump-first Republicans did.

You might surmise that last year’s strikes against Iran created a MAGA mind-set shift — a permission structure — specifically in favor of military action against Iran. If Mr. Trump does it, it can’t be bad, the thinking might go. But MAGA’s support isn’t limited to after-the-fact rationalizations.


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Take, for instance, the issue of responding to a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, a hypothetical that is instructive since there’s no position on the matter that is obviously Trump-coded. In the 2025 national defense survey conducted by the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute, MAGA Republicans were the most supportive of a variety of interventions in Taiwan. Nearly two-thirds said they would support “committing U.S. forces to the defense of Taiwan,” compared with only 49 percent of non-MAGA Republicans. Nowhere in the survey do the MAGA respondents betray a hint of isolationism relative to their non-MAGA brethren.


https://dnyuz.com/2026/03/30/maga-was-supposed-to-be-antiwar-nope/


MAGA is growing!

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:25 pm to
This just shows why you can never trust neocons. They will lie and claim they don't want War but at the first chance they will support it in droves.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16831 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:44 pm to
“Iran cannot be allowed to get a nuke. An attack on Israel should be treated as an attack against the United States.”

-DJT announcing his candidacy in 2015
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10273 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:46 pm to
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This just shows why you can never trust neocons. They will lie and claim they don't want War but at the first chance they will support it in droves.


a LAWYER whining about TRUST - you cannot make this up, it is priceless
If in my experience 95% of lawyers are scum, is the next scummy one I meet merely "anecdotal evidence"?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
69808 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:47 pm to
You’re such a simpleton
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
474795 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:49 pm to
What's funny is that I predicted this during the last campaign when people tried to pretend that Trump was anti-war and would not get us involved in wars in the Middle East.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
69808 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:49 pm to
Again simple minded. You want the status quo, forever war in the region yet you claim you’re anti-war. It’s an oxymoron, heavy on the moron
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27978 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:53 pm to
I honestly don't understand the reaction to these polls. There have been several with a similar angle and it's always celebrating that the people who self identify as MAGA are more likely to agree with whatever it is Trump is doing.

Is that really a surprise at this point?
Posted by Tigerfan4545
Member since Oct 2024
309 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:53 pm to
I can’t take anything serious from a state that elected a goat fricking Muslim as mayor after 9/11.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
474795 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:54 pm to
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There have been several with a similar angle and it's always celebrating that the people who self identify as MAGA are more likely to agree with whatever it is Trump is doing.

Is that really a surprise at this point?

No
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97395 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:58 pm to
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What's funny is that I predicted this


You have never ever been right about anything yet have predicted everything
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18097 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:01 pm to
I will always support our military anywhere anytime however, I oppose the decision to attack Iran or any other country unless they have directly attacked the USA.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
24881 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:11 pm to
Not a war.....this is taking care of business and the world....

IRAN = BAD

Iran does NOT deserve to be a part of this civilization, unless the leadership takes an about-face!
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
41699 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:12 pm to
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I honestly don't understand the reaction to these polls. There have been several with a similar angle and it's always celebrating that the people who self identify as MAGA are more likely to agree with whatever it is Trump is doing.


I just post them because we have been getting constantly trolled with posts saying Trump is losing MAGA. The polling from multiple sources and political leanings say otherwise.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27978 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:29 pm to
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I just post them because we have been getting constantly trolled with posts saying Trump is losing MAGA. The polling from multiple sources and political leanings say otherwise.


But the polling is self selecting. Trump won't lose people who self-identify as MAGA, the real question is has the MAGA percentage of people who voted for Trump changed. Maybe it's the same, maybe it's shrunk (if this board is any indication it has), but none of these polls address that.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65091 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:21 pm to
They aren't wrong. Trump is sacrificing a lot of capital for Israel.
Posted by Sp0728
Your head
Member since Aug 2018
2322 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:23 pm to
frick Israel The white washed terrorist state. Evil.

Jews are taught to manipulate Christians. They act like our friends only to extract anything and everything they need.

We are not allies. We are biblically more enemies with Judaism than Islam.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
18619 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:27 pm to
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An attack on Israel should be treated as an attack against the United States.”
Why?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11228 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:36 pm to
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I oppose the decision to attack Iran or any other country unless they have directly attacked the USA.


So, you're ok with Iran killing our citizens as long as it's not on our soil?

I don't understand this mentality. Either people are citizens or they are not. The location shouldn't matter.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96573 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:39 pm to
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he real question is has the MAGA percentage of people who voted for Trump changed. Maybe it's the same, maybe it's shrunk (if this board is any indication it has), but none of these polls address that.


Ask CNN. They've said it's remained 100%
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