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How North Korea obtained a nuke
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:09 pm
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The key moment: the 1994 crisis
In the early 1990s, North Korea was moving toward extracting plutonium from its nuclear reactor. This led to a major confrontation with the U.S., sometimes called the 1994 nuclear crisis.
Clinton seriously considered military strikes on North Korea’s nuclear facilities at Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center. However, this option was extremely risky—estimates suggested it could trigger a second Korean War, potentially killing hundreds of thousands (or more) people, especially in Seoul.
Instead of military action, Clinton’s administration negotiated the Agreed Framework. Under this deal:
North Korea agreed to freeze its plutonium program.
In return, the U.S. and allies would provide fuel aid and help build light-water reactors.
Impact:
The agreement did halt North Korea’s plutonium production for about 8 years.
During this time, North Korea did not produce additional plutonium for bombs (based on most intelligence estimates).
Summarized with ChatGPT
So, because Bill Clinton chose appeasement, the North Koreans obtained a nuke and now are nuisances on the world stage. They hide behind their bomb and China.
Trump, a student of history, seems like he wanted to choose the opposite action and opted for military strikes on Iran.
This is why the Obama deal wasn’t going to work. The North Koreans violated this little deal the entire time.
LINK
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This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 4:11 pm
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:12 pm to Deuces
This and the fact that Jimmy Carter was in the middle of the negotiations
This is another of those inconvenient truths deathbydrivel doesn’t want to face when he cheers for his JCPOA. The Obama John Kerry version of the appeasement we gave NK.
This is another of those inconvenient truths deathbydrivel doesn’t want to face when he cheers for his JCPOA. The Obama John Kerry version of the appeasement we gave NK.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:12 pm to Deuces
Bill Clinton helped NK and China (ballistic missile targeting). Hillary helped sell nuclear weapons material to Russia.
We know what all Jug Ears did.
We know what all Jug Ears did.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:14 pm to Deuces
This is why Iran can’t get one to have any leverage what so ever. They were allowed to use nuclear for energy, they chose to keep developing a weapon.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:17 pm to Deuces
I put the odds of a North Korean nuke actually working at about 15%
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:18 pm to deltaland
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I put the odds of a North Korean nuke actually working at about 15%
It’s not about how effective it is, it’s their ability to use the threat as leverage.
When you have the ability to kill millions with a single strike, others must respect you.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:26 pm to Deuces
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So, because Bill Clinton chose appeasement, the North Koreans obtained a nuke and now are nuisances on the world stage
Are they? I havent even thought about North Korea for like 8 years. Haven't heard much about them at all.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:27 pm to SirWinston
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Are they? I havent even thought about North Korea for like 8 years. Haven't heard much about them at all.
So if you don’t think about them, I guess everything’s fine.
Thanks, mate.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:41 pm to Deuces
So we should take out NK nuclear program then to fix a wrong? I mean these guys are bat shite crazy as well. Why don’t we take out their nuclear program?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:20 pm to Deuces
Sounds like the Marxist Dems play book.
Same thing would've happened in Iran if Trump hadn't won in 24.
Same thing would've happened in Iran if Trump hadn't won in 24.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:22 pm to sta4ever
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So we should take out NK nuclear program then to fix a wrong? I mean these guys are bat shite crazy as well. Why don’t we take out their nuclear program?
Im sorry, but seriously?? What a stupid fricking question....
Probably because THEY ALREADY HAVE NUKES!!!
Geez, how can some of you people remember to breathe?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:28 pm to Deuces
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Bill Clinton chose appeasement
To be fair, unlike Iran, North Korea can hit Seoul with artillery without a ballistic missile program. They had an extra card Iran didn't have. (I think the West is admittedly less concerned about Iran's Gulf neighbors than themselves in this scenario).
But yes, Iran was stockpiling the ballistics in order to achieve the same goal. Put Europe under ballistic threat to the point only delaying action could be used, and then Iran would have a bomb like NK and that would be that.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:35 pm to sta4ever
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Why don’t we take out their nuclear program?
Well, uh…
They kind of already have a nuke…
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:37 pm to Deuces
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How North Korea obtained a nuke
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:43 pm to Deuces
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Summarized with ChatGPT
So, because Bill Clinton chose appeasement, the North Koreans obtained a nuke and now are nuisances on the world
ChatGPT started a sentence with so?? Maybe natural stupidity is winning.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 5:44 pm to Deuces
Clinton screwed us in NK but more with NAFTA. He has his just rewards coming.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:27 pm to sta4ever
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So we should take out NK nuclear program then to fix a wrong? I mean these guys are bat shite crazy as well. Why don’t we take out their nuclear program?
Um, because they would nuke us and it would be the end of civilization as we know it because we would nuke them back...
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:02 pm to deltaland
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I put the odds of a North Korean nuke actually working at about 15%
There have been a few confirmed underground tests, it works.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:12 pm to Deuces
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Trump, a student of history, seems like he wanted to choose the opposite action and opted for military strikes on Iran.
Yes. Take care of the problem now or regret it forever.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:13 pm to Deuces
North Korea has and had leverage because Seoul is so close to the border and NK artillery. There’s just not real way to neutralize that threat.
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