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This is my biggest argument for point / spread restriction hunting clubs
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:52 pm
I hunt family land that also has a club on it. I try and go by their rules of 8 point or better. they have a clause in there that you can kill one cull or "mistake" deer just in case that 8 turns out to be a 7 or a does has spikes 
I have a really mature 7 point that's really nice and I'd probably skull mount but for the betterment of the deer herd I'll now have to waste my "cull" on this crap
I have a really mature 7 point that's really nice and I'd probably skull mount but for the betterment of the deer herd I'll now have to waste my "cull" on this crap
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:55 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
I'll take that crap if you don't want to eat it.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:04 pm to TheSnuggler
Oh he'll eat and id gladly take him out but putting point restrictions means he'll get passed but that young 8 point with good genetics will get taken out
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:24 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Yeah it would be better if they had a main beam clause in there as well. 8pt or better or x" main beam. I went to a camp one time that had a 6 pt mounted on the wall that would put allot of deer to shame. Was massive, tall and well past the ears in terms of spread. Had everything it needed to be a boone and crocket less G3's and G4's 
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:30 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:Isn't that what you are supposed to do?
but for the betterment of the deer herd I'll now have to waste my "cull" on this crap
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:31 pm to AlxTgr
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Isn't that what you are supposed to do?
Absolutely. But when my 13 year old accidentally shoots a 7 instead of an 8 its gonna cost me 300 dollars
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:45 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
too many rules, subject to interpretation, leads to problems for everyone...
from a bad personal experience, camp rules shouldn't apply to kids when it comes to shooting deer, takes the excitement out of the hunt, we are losing too many kids to xbox etc as it is...
from a bad personal experience, camp rules shouldn't apply to kids when it comes to shooting deer, takes the excitement out of the hunt, we are losing too many kids to xbox etc as it is...
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:59 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:the place I gave is like this. You shoot two minimum 8 pts, they give you a third
Oh he'll eat and id gladly take him out but putting point restrictions means he'll get passed but that young 8 point with good genetics will get taken out
Shoot a big arse wide 6 w no brow
tines and you are legal but don't get but your two bucks
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:04 am to FelicianaTigerfan
So you're looking to shoot a flat backed, pencil horned, short tined, obviously young as shite deer, for a cull? Here's a tip. Shooting culls won't do shite anyway. It's why you can go to fenced ranches and shoot "culls" every damn year for decades. It doesn't actually "cull" anything.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:28 am to Melvin Spellvin
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we are losing too many kids to xbox etc as it is...
I disagree with this. Kids who want to play Xbox will play Xbox and kids who want to hunt and shoot will hunt and shoot. Also, kids who want to do both will do both. I fit into the 2nd category and my brother fits into the last. I don't think we are losing anyone as a result of video games at all, varied interests attracts people to different things and some people either get hooked on hunting or they find something else that interests them.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:43 am to ChatRabbit77
you missed my point, given the choice between hunting with unnecessarily restrictive camp rules and instant gratification xbox, kids will decide to stay home and play xbox rather than hunt almost every time, liberal camp rules for kids allows them to shoot more often, get that rush and be excited about getting out there rather than sitting around the house playing xbox etc...
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:26 am to Fratigerguy
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So you're looking to shoot a flat backed, pencil horned, short tined, obviously young as shite deer, for a cull?
What im saying is this deer's genetics are less desirable than that young as shite basket rack 8. Instead, that 8 will get shot because its legal by club rules where this deer wont because he is only a 6
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Here's a tip. Shooting culls won't do shite anyway. It's why you can go to fenced ranches and shoot "culls" every damn year for decades. It doesn't actually "cull" anything.
I aware that "cull" bucks only pass 50% of their genetics to their young and there is no way of knowing if a doe has good antler genetics or not. I also know that free range 300 acres is almost impossible to manage. Doesn't mean that I cant put forth the effort. Id much rather hunt and feel like im trying to accomplish something rather than just shooting whatever walks out. I like to think that every deer I kill has some effect on the ecosystem I hunt. So, when I let that arrow fly id much rather know that this buck with no brows wont be breeding rather than that "obvious young as shite" symmetrical 8 will be
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:33 am to FelicianaTigerfan
No one is making you shoot that buck. If you don't want to shoot it then dint
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:37 am to Ron Cheramie
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No one is making you shoot that buck. If you don't want to shoot it then dint
Youre absolutely right. Was just pointing out that point out that point restrictions are dumb
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:40 am to FelicianaTigerfan
I agree. Some of the club rules are silly. Too many rules = less fun
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:52 am to FelicianaTigerfan
LINK
Really good read here discussing this topic.
Really good read here discussing this topic.
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Summary of Results There are 3 equally important factors that control antler development in white-tailed deer: nutrition, genetics, and age. Antler development is genetically based, environmentally influenced, and reaches its peak at maturity. The key to quality deer management is to remove those bucks which have the least desirable antler characteristics at an early age. Kerr WMA studies show that yearling antlers predict a buck's antler quality at maturity. Kerr genetic studies indicate bucks with the best antlers will produce more progeny with exceptional antlers than will poorer bucks. The does influence antler production as well. Harvest of older does is important to insure younger does are products of better bucks. Habitat should be managed so that deer can achieve their greatest antler potential. There are no methods to "jump-start" a quality deer program.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:00 am to AlxTgr
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Isn't that what you are supposed to do?
This
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:06 am to bluedog623
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LINK
Really good read here discussing this topic.
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