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Will Wade and What we really know:
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:15 am
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:15 am
It's not much really. First, He supposedly is on a tape saying he made a strong arse offer to a player. Nothing monetary was mentioned, just that it was an offer. Second, a witness,NOT WADE ON TAPE, says that Wade told him he made a $300k deal for Naz Reid. So Wade isn't on the tape himself saying this. In a court of law it's hearsay without any proof of wrong doing. Until there is proof he cheated and/or violated NCAA rules in recruiting he still has the presumption of innocence.
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:16 am to LSUgrad1998
quote:
What we really know
Is nothing.
Thread is irrelevant.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:20 am to LSUgrad1998
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In a court of law it's hearsay without any proof of wrong doing.
Right and he’s not being accused of a crime.
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Until there is proof he cheated and/or violated NCAA rules in recruiting he still has the presumption of innocence.
Again he’s not being charged with a crime so the same standards do not apply to the NCAA or his employer
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:24 am to LSUgrad1998
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In a court of law it's hearsay without any proof of wrong doing.
No, its not. Hearsay is inadmissible. Obviously, it was admitted. As to Wade this would be considered an admission against interest, would be fully admissible in a court of law and could be considered by a judge or jury in determining what Wade did. If the witness was saying that Orgeron told him that Wade said he paid $300k for a player that would be hearsay.
I did not realize the NCAA applied a presumption of innocence. I did not realize they needed proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I did not realize they were bound by rules of evidence. I think the NCAA has a much lower burden than that. If the NCAA does not penalize LSU is is either because LSU and Wade can explain away these incidents or the NCAA decides not to go after teams based on evidence coming out of the trial because it would impact too many schools.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:26 am to TchPowDog
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Is nothing.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:27 am to LSUgrad1998
How true!
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:27 am to LSUgrad1998
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He supposedly is on a tape saying he made a strong arse offer to a player.
He IS on a tape talking to and about a handler that he made the strong offer to.
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told him he made a $300k deal for Naz Reid
Correct, not his vouce. But it sure does fit the narrative of the first situation...like a pattern of behavior
Hope im wrong. Lets hope the handler doesnt corroborate all of this in some plea deal.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:27 am to Macavity92
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Macavity92
All that. Thank you.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:01 am to GeeOH
The tape has NEVER been heard or played. The first was leaked information from a transcript of a recording. Again when was money mentioned regarding the strong offer. The second is a witness claiming Will Wade told him he paid to get a player. This witness did not provide any proof this occurred. How do we know? Because WW hasn't and wasn't charged with any crime. He isn't on trial.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:03 am to Macavity92
So any one accusing Coach K of paying the 100k for Zion should be believed? You saying he should be fired and terminated? Again there is no evidence of any payments.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:07 am to LSUgrad1998
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The tape has NEVER been heard or played
In public maybe
Jesus some of you are delusional quote:
So any one accusing Coach K of paying the 100k for Zion should be believed?
What do you mean by anyone? Anonymous message board posters or Baton Rouge am radio hosts of course not. An agent that has a connection to Zion and Coach K well then yes
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:07 am to LSUgrad1998
I’m sick and tired about hearing will wade rumors, it’s basketball, who gives a shite. Since when did LSU start caring about peanuts. Football season is slowly approaching.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:11 am to H-Town Tiger
Then said agent has proof on that coach. Right? So did he show proof against WW? If so why hasn't the FBI charged WW with a crime after being shown this agents' PROOF.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:11 am to LSUgrad1998
Maybe a dumb question, but where would this 300k come from?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:12 am to Macavity92
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I think the NCAA has a much lower burden than that
The NCAA standard is the “clear and convincing” evidence standard. It’s been posted on here several times.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:14 am to tigerpimpbot
Yep. And it clear and convincing that no evidence exists of any financial transaction.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:14 am to Dellybelly82
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it’s basketball, who gives a shite.
Um, a lot of people l. In fact, some of us even like LSU hoops more than football. That might be too much for your little mind to comprehend though.
Call me crazy but I get MUCH more excited about beating the cream of the crop in the conference than I do about getting shut out by Bama and, for whatever reason, our inability to beat Dan Mullen led teams.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:17 am to LSUgrad1998
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Then said agent has proof on that coach. Right? So did he show proof against WW? If so why hasn't the FBI charged WW with a crime after being shown this agents' PROOF.
Jesus are you dense or just willfully ignorant? NCAA rules violations ARE NOT A CRIME. Dale Brown was never charged with a crime, that didn’t stop the NCAA from hammering the program and him losing his job.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:18 am to LSUgrad1998
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And it clear and convincing that no evidence exists of any financial transaction.
That you know of
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:21 am to LSUgrad1998
hearsay is an Out of court statement with numerous exceptions. If the tape is introduced into evidence it is evidence.
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