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To believe Chauvin is guilty of murder, you have to believe this.

Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33102 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:18 pm
That a police officer knowingly murdered a person in broad daylight on a public street while numerous people were witnessing and filming him.

Kind of far fetched.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22056 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:21 pm to
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That a police officer knowingly murdered a person in broad daylight on a public street while numerous people were witnessing and filming him.

Kind of far fetched.

First, I think the trial was a clownshow and Chauvin should have been found guilty of manslaughter, at worst.

However, it's not far-fetched to think a cop would knowingly murder someone with witnesses filming it.

Tell me if you need a link for a few examples.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8991 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:21 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 2:41 am
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33090 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:23 pm to
He was charged with 2nd degree unintentional murder so actually you’re wrong

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The second-degree unintentional murder charge alleges Chauvin caused Floyd's death "without intent" while committing or attempting to commit felony third-degree assault. In turn, third-degree assault is defined as the intentional infliction of substantial bodily harm.
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3957 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:24 pm to
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That a police officer knowingly murdered a person in broad daylight on a public street while numerous people were witnessing and filming him.


Ever heard of a sociopath?
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:27 pm to
Auntie Maxine wanted 1st Degree, pre-meditated version. Let that sink in.
Posted by BringThePaine
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Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:30 pm to
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That a police officer knowingly murdered a person in broad daylight on a public street while numerous people were witnessing and filming him.

Kind of far fetched.
And this is a good example of why it is so very difficult to have a reasonable discussion about ... well, anything ... in today's political climate. Someone with very little understanding of applicable law will ALWAYS make the sort of baseless assertion found in the OP ... and believe it with all of his being. Because his ideology requires him to hold that belief, no amount of objectively-correct information will ever cause most such persons to revise their viewpoints.

In truth, not ONE of the three crimes with which Officer Chauvin was charged requires the level of mens rea that the OP describes.

WHAT'S SECOND-DEGREE UNINTENTIONAL MURDER?
It's also called felony murder. To prove this count, prosecutors had to show that Chauvin killed Floyd while committing or trying to commit a felony — in this case, third-degree assault. They didn't have to prove Chauvin intended to kill Floyd, only that he intended to apply unlawful force that caused bodily harm.

WHAT ABOUT THIRD-DEGREE MURDER?
For this count, jurors must find Chauvin caused Floyd's death through an action that was “eminently dangerous” and carried out with a reckless disregard for and conscious indifference to the loss of life.

SECOND-DEGREE MANSLAUGHTER?
Prosecutors had to show that Chauvin caused Floyd's death through culpable negligence that created an unreasonable risk, and that he consciously took the chance of causing severe injury or death.

US News
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
36078 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:31 pm to
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To believe Chauvin is guilty of murder, you have to believe this.
That a police officer knowingly murdered a person


None of the charges required specific intent.
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