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So was Bo Pelini really that bad?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:51 pm
Just makes you wonder. The defense looked just as bad…I would actually say worse…than last year.
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:52 pm to seabrisket
Yes
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:54 pm to seabrisket
Yes
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:54 pm to seabrisket
As bad as the D looked last Saturday, they were still better than 2020.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:55 pm to seabrisket
Pelini had to install a new D over the summer with no practices because of Covid.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:55 pm to seabrisket
I mean They scored 38 and the offense helped them in 7
We were giving up 40+ to Miss St and Missouri at this point last year and they sucked.
We were giving up 40+ to Miss St and Missouri at this point last year and they sucked.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:56 pm to TheDeathValley
No, Pelini is a great defensive coach, and his players loved him. O Constantly interfered, what you got is O's defense.
Take this to the bank.
Take this to the bank.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:57 pm to seabrisket
quote:
The defense looked just as bad…I would actually say worse…than last year.
Not even close
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:58 pm to Ethan Martin
quote:
O Constantly interfered,
That’s kind of the perception I’m getting.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:59 pm to seabrisket
Yes.
We switched to a 4-3 when we didn’t have the personnel to do it. Additionally, the was no real offseason (Covid).
As a result, we were totally unprepared to start last season.
Pelinini deserves to be shite on, but he was up against it last season due to circumstances beyond his control.
Averaging 600 plus yards a game as DC will get you fired every time.
We switched to a 4-3 when we didn’t have the personnel to do it. Additionally, the was no real offseason (Covid).
As a result, we were totally unprepared to start last season.
Pelinini deserves to be shite on, but he was up against it last season due to circumstances beyond his control.
Averaging 600 plus yards a game as DC will get you fired every time.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 10:01 pm to seabrisket
Good enough to not even be interviewed.
Dude spent more time playing golf than he did in the FB facility
Dude spent more time playing golf than he did in the FB facility
Posted on 9/8/21 at 10:15 pm to seabrisket
Yes. Our new DC just sucks too. I mean at least it was first game as DC. Peleni was a DC and head hoach.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:16 pm to Jebadeb
Next question
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:28 pm to seabrisket
Pelini wasn't a good hire IMO because he had not adapted to the new offenses. This was evident in '07. And it was a big concern to many of us when he was hired.
That said, '20 is an outlier in his career. I think he's on record saying we didn't have the personnel on hand to run what Ed wanted, i.e., 4 man front. And I don't recall our secondary being a sea of confusion from '05 to '07.
Didn't like the hire at all but Bo was never that bad. Not sure what was going on.
That said, '20 is an outlier in his career. I think he's on record saying we didn't have the personnel on hand to run what Ed wanted, i.e., 4 man front. And I don't recall our secondary being a sea of confusion from '05 to '07.
Didn't like the hire at all but Bo was never that bad. Not sure what was going on.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:32 pm to seabrisket
If you are bad at something, someone else also being bad doesn’t make you less bad.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:44 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:I am now of the opinion that 2020 wasn't on Pelini. I think he could have fielded a very competent, if not cutting-edge, defense last year, which would have been better this year.
Pelini wasn't a good hire IMO because he had not adapted to the new offenses. This was evident in '07. And it was a big concern to many of us when he was hired.
That said, '20 is an outlier in his career. I think he's on record saying we didn't have the personnel on hand to run what Ed wanted, i.e., 4 man front. And I don't recall our secondary being a sea of confusion from '05 to '07.
The man came out and stated to the press that LSU didn't have the linebackers to run the defense Orgeron wanted. Orgeron responded to the press that it didn't matter, coverage is coverage.
What amount of frustration does it take, for an assistant coach to go public with the fact that we can't run the defense he's being dictated to run? How many times did he go to Orgeron's office and say "this won't work", before he burned those bridges and attempted to save his reputation?
So now, Pelini is gone, Orgeron has another guy in place, and the defense continues to look like hot dogshit.
This is not on Pelini, nor is it on Jones. This is on a former D Line coach who thinks he can run 'an attacking defense', without the players necessary.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:45 pm to seabrisket
Will Compton and Taylor Lewan had Pelini on their podcast recently. I listened just because I wanted to hear him talk about LSU. Hardly anything at all.
Some of these coaches do podcasts and it's like the years and years of coachspeak and strategic secrecy is so ingrained in them that they make podcasts uninteresting. A lot of people would've been interested to hear his candid take on what happened last year.
Same with Les Miles. I'd have been interested to hear him go in-depth about OCs and how much influence he personally had on Offense over the years, decision-making through the years. But all the podcasts I heard from him were uninteresting.
Some of these coaches do podcasts and it's like the years and years of coachspeak and strategic secrecy is so ingrained in them that they make podcasts uninteresting. A lot of people would've been interested to hear his candid take on what happened last year.
Same with Les Miles. I'd have been interested to hear him go in-depth about OCs and how much influence he personally had on Offense over the years, decision-making through the years. But all the podcasts I heard from him were uninteresting.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:46 pm to seabrisket
Not in 2007.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:54 pm to seabrisket
There’s a common denominator with 2 different coordinators but yet the defense yields the same shite product. The players are making the same damn mistakes from one coordinator to the next, so I’m going with the players.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 12:46 am to des4271
quote:There's another common factor, which we used to see with offenses (especially QBs)... the head coach and his overall vision. Les Miles refused to allow a passing game to risk anything after 2008, until Mett finally emerged. Coordinators came and went, didn't matter.
There’s a common denominator with 2 different coordinators but yet the defense yields the same shite product. The players are making the same damn mistakes from one coordinator to the next, so I’m going with the players.
Orgeron ran Aranda off and wanted his stamp on the defense. We've seen total cluelessness since Aranda left, and the 4-3 was stuffed onto this team. Mediocre by definition would be a big improvement.
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