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re: Trying to fight globalization is a losing battle and will only hurt America

Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:11 am to
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28954 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:11 am to
frick you and frick that bitch. Move to Europe if you don't like the way things are done here and you want safe spaces.
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:12 am to
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frick you and frick that bitch. Move to Europe if you don't like the way things are done here and you want safe spaces.


Holy shite. You might actually be retarded.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:13 am to
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Move to Europe if you don't like the way things are done here


When Trump loses will you move too?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:13 am to
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What does China buy from us?


Dude, we buy from them, and erecting more economic barriers would make consumer goods more expensive, (most likely) including that laptop and/or phone you are currently using to post.




Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10430 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:13 am to
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If we are not producing products,that the rest of the world is buying,we are out of the market already.
What does China buy from us? Chicken feet?
How long before they are on top of that too?

We need to relearn how to be self-sufficient,we have forgotten.Most of our citizens have forgotten even how to take care of themselves.It's sad.


What you're saying is right but the problem is that there is no path to that. Our standard and cost of living is too high in this country (compared to China). We have to pay our workers too much. It is 100% impossible for us to have jobs here creating goods and sell them at a competitive cost anywhere else. Sure, we can control the taxes on items coming into the US Itself but for the rest of the world countries will choose to buy the cheaper option being produced outside of the US.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39205 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:15 am to
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Globalization is a false god. There is no way it can sustain long term.


Very true; given the current World mindset. L
If it happens in an economic 'collapse' scenario, likely about 3 1/2 years of honeymoon spin...then followed by 3 1/2 of reactionary muscle/implosion.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11161 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:19 am to
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free trade.


If that's what you think has pushed manufacturing jobs out of the U.S., I feel sorry for you.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31295 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:21 am to
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Dude, we buy from them, and erecting more economic barriers would make consumer goods more expensive, (most likely) including that laptop and/or phone you are currently using to post


Dude,don't you think that is the point?
We don't make anything here anymore,so the American worker is not in huge demand,so wages stay stagnant.
The expense of consumer goods is always relative to the amount of money that people have to spend.

When the American worker is in high demand,the rule of supply and demand comes into play,and drives wages higher. We need to produce and buy our own products.
That's what other countries do.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95188 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:23 am to
That's fine as your opinion and you may even be right, but your folks should just run on that: massive globalization, surrender of U.S. autonomy to the U.N. and other global organizations, curtailment of rights, the whole 9 yards.

Then go through the process of amending the constitution to make it happen.

Doing it subversively (which has apparently been the plan since 1945 or before) and just hollowing out the country to advance this agenda, despite the will of the citizenry - just seems to be the most anti-democratic way to accomplish this.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
51891 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:26 am to
frick off and get the high 5.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31295 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:28 am to
That is why all imported goods need a tariff,ALL of them. That is what other countries do.

We all need to be buying any U.S. made items when we can,even if it costs a bit more.
When we stopped doing this,that is when our economy went south.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:29 am to
Globalization entails a whole hell of a lot more than trade.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35124 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:29 am to
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now lining up in a futile effort to resist 21st century market forces and reverse free trade


stopped reading your bullshite strawman argument here.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:29 am to
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It's a strange thing to see people who have claimed to be "free market" conservatives their entire lives now lining up in a futile effort to resist 21st century market forces and reverse free trade.


What you mean is that the United States shouldn't work to protect its workers against people who are literaly paid slave wages.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:29 am to
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The expense of consumer goods is always relative to the amount of money that people have to spend.


Price depends (to a certain extent) on demand, but cost of production is independent of demand. Subtle but important difference.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 7:31 am
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:34 am to
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What does China buy from us?


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The Top 10 US Exports to China
1. Soybeans: $15 billion
2. Civilian aircraft: $8.4 billion
3. Cotton: $3.4 billion
4. Copper materials: $3 billion
5. Passenger vehicles (small engines): $3 billion
6. Aluminum materials: $2.4 billion
7. Passenger vehicles (large engines): $2.2 billion
8. Electronic integrated circuits: $1.7 billion
9. Corn: $1.3 billion
10. Coal: $1.2 billion
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:34 am to
If I oppose open borders I also oppose free trade?

If I oppose condensed power I oppose free trade?

If I oppose nonsense like a global warming tax I oppose free trade?

Is that what you guys are going with this morning?
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:36 am to
and Chairman Mao said he would sell the rope to the U S with which we would be hung by

politicians like President Obama and Hillary Clinton, and Democratic, Liberal voters and their sheep, who not only will let our country be invaded by other countries, but want this to happen, need to pull their heads out of their asses

free markets are one thing, surrendering our way of life to lower our standards to the global mean will be the end of our country, our democracy
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 7:40 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134349 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:37 am to
Your post may be the most ignorant post we will ever read today. Globalization is fine as long as it is played on a level playing field.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12888 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:43 am to
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will only result in the flow of capital outside the United States and the eventual replacement of the US as the worlds leading financial power with China or some other burgeoning nation embracing globalization and making it work from them
So, same as contemporary vector...
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